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Yes. + if you live in a city, you are also fighting for on-street parking nights and weekends, and have to keep moving it every other week in order to avoid get

Yes. + if you live in a city, you are also fighting for on-street parking nights and weekends, and have to keep moving it every other week in order to avoid getting street cleaning tickets. Source: Me in San Francisco.

SpecialistEMT 8y ago
to me, there's also the factor of liability when I'm driving a car. explanation, I can drive a car, for fun, to go on adventures, outside of the city, or take a ride at night, but when I'm making a reasonable salary, I'd rather uberx when I commute, and totally focus on work and my mindset, than road safety. Also sometimes I'm very stressed/tired after/before work, so driving is not that safe and safety is priceless.
lhorie 8y ago
This is sort of by choice though, no? When I was looking to rent in SF, I always asked about parking arrangements. It's not that hard to find places that have garage parking arrangements, even in neighbourhoods with crowded street parking (e.g. sunset/richmond). Also, SF seems somewhat unique in how bad street parking gets. In, e.g. Toronto, street parking in some areas near downtown is reserved for residents and outer neighbourhoods tend to be spacious enough that households have dedicated parking spaces.
- justboxing 8y ago
  > It's not that hard to find places that have garage parking arrangements Yes, there are such places. If you are willing to fork out an additional $300 (minimum) for the parking spot.
  - lhorie 8y ago
    $300? Wow, that's crazy. Curious whereabouts you were looking. Highest I saw when I was looking was $150 (around oct last year).
    - justboxing 8y ago
      $150? No way. I'm talking Inner Richmond, Laurel Heights. Not even SOMA or Downtown where it's over $350. What area were you getting $150 for?
      - lhorie 8y ago
        > SOMA or Downtown Ok yeah, in those areas, I can see it happening (but then again, I would never rent in those areas if I have a car...) I was looking for 2beds mostly around sunset and richmond (basically around areas with good elementary schools). I'm surprised you got such a different experience because when I was searching, many places had parking included, and "important" factors like parking/laundry didn't even seem to affect the price as much as other random reasons (e.g. recent renovations, landlord whims, the real estate agent mediating, perceived "transit convenience", etc) I spent a significant amount of time looking (I toured well over 50 places), and there's definitely a bunch of full-of-$%&@ people out there trying to rip you off. It's hard to find good deals, but not impossible, and I did get a few who even offered to waive deposit/first month/parking or to negotiate.

SpecialistEMT 8y ago

to me, there's also the factor of liability when I'm driving a car. explanation, I can drive a car, for fun, to go on adventures, outside of the city, or take a ride at night, but when I'm making a reasonable salary, I'd rather uberx when I commute, and totally focus on work and my mindset, than road safety. Also sometimes I'm very stressed/tired after/before work, so driving is not that safe and safety is priceless.

lhorie 8y ago

This is sort of by choice though, no? When I was looking to rent in SF, I always asked about parking arrangements. It's not that hard to find places that have garage parking arrangements, even in neighbourhoods with crowded street parking (e.g. sunset/richmond). Also, SF seems somewhat unique in how bad street parking gets. In, e.g. Toronto, street parking in some areas near downtown is reserved for residents and outer neighbourhoods tend to be spacious enough that households have dedicated parking spaces.

justboxing 8y ago
> It's not that hard to find places that have garage parking arrangements Yes, there are such places. If you are willing to fork out an additional $300 (minimum) for the parking spot.
- lhorie 8y ago
  $300? Wow, that's crazy. Curious whereabouts you were looking. Highest I saw when I was looking was $150 (around oct last year).
  - justboxing 8y ago
    $150? No way. I'm talking Inner Richmond, Laurel Heights. Not even SOMA or Downtown where it's over $350. What area were you getting $150 for?
    - lhorie 8y ago
      > SOMA or Downtown Ok yeah, in those areas, I can see it happening (but then again, I would never rent in those areas if I have a car...) I was looking for 2beds mostly around sunset and richmond (basically around areas with good elementary schools). I'm surprised you got such a different experience because when I was searching, many places had parking included, and "important" factors like parking/laundry didn't even seem to affect the price as much as other random reasons (e.g. recent renovations, landlord whims, the real estate agent mediating, perceived "transit convenience", etc) I spent a significant amount of time looking (I toured well over 50 places), and there's definitely a bunch of full-of-$%&@ people out there trying to rip you off. It's hard to find good deals, but not impossible, and I did get a few who even offered to waive deposit/first month/parking or to negotiate.