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>In 2012, the country’s police investigators were repeatedly thwarted by a hacker known as the “Demon Killer,” who posted a series of death threats online. The
by leaveyou 8y ago
>In 2012, the country’s police investigators were repeatedly thwarted by a hacker known as the “Demon Killer,” who posted a series of death threats online. The hacker used Tor to successfully evade detection for seven months, which was a major source of embarrassment for Japanese police — and likely fueled demand for new surveillance capabilities.
yes.. it was a bad bad hacker who fueled demand for more money thrown at the defense industry and not someone acting on purpose.
- Moodles 8y agoIt seems pretty plausible to me that a bad bad hacker could do such things and a reaction from the Japanese government would be to try to break Tor. Do you think it's a lie? If Tor doesn't actually help hackers against the Japanese, then what is their motivation for lying? Do you think the Japanese government just want an excuse to spy on their people? (genuinely asking)
- mikekchar 8y ago> Do you think the Japanese government just want an excuse to spy on their people? I could go into a long discussion of Japanese culture and the relationship of Japanese society with the government, but... Really, you can't expect any large organisation to act rationally. All such organisations are made up of many, many people all of which have their own agenda. The action that is expressed at any given moment depends entirely on the ebb and flow of internal power struggles. You can't really predict it or reason about it in the same way you might for a single person. It could be anything.
- CapacitorSet 8y ago>Do you think the Japanese government just want an excuse to spy on their people? I'm not OP, but I would be very surprised if the attack was the root cause for strengthening their spy agencies. In the United States we have seen time and again that laws for a stricter surveillance are passed with the pretext of anti-terrorism or anti-child pornography; Japan could very well be using such a case to justify their surveillance needs.
- willvarfar 8y agoIt is most unlikely that the Demon Killer was a false flag funding exercise. Imagine the problems if a whistleblower exposed that! It is much more likely that the Military-Industrial Complex used the opportunity to push for more powers and funding. As all Military-Industrial Complexes do all around the world at every opportunity.
- PostOnce 8y ago"imagine the PR problems if X" worked prior to snowden, but now it seems no one cares. If we don't care that they're spying on us all, why would we care about the reason behind the spying? Your argument is very logical and plausible, but we live in illogical and implausible times.
- bonaldi 8y agoIf no-one cares there's no need to false flag a justification, is there?
- CiPHPerCoder 8y agoDevil's advocate: What's the harm in keeping your hands "clean"? The public zeitgeist can change, after all, and someday the public may care. Better be prepared for that, etc.
- SiempreViernes 8y agoExtra cost and complication now versus potential costs in the future.
- CiPHPerCoder 8y agoSmall up-front cost now versus having your lives threatened in the future.
- Scipio_Afri 8y ago
- draw_down 8y agoAhh, everything’s a false flag to you guys.
- asdsa5325 8y agoYou think it's not reasonable to think it was a real person acting maliciously? Would you like to explain further?