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SkyNet, you signed up voluntarily. > and our boss is looking to migrate away from Google only if it is not too late. 'Don't be evil' was removed from the code

SkyNet, you signed up voluntarily. > and our boss is looking to migrate away from Google only if it is not too late. 'Don't be evil' was removed from the code of conduct's preface in 2018. I commented 2 days ago on other thread: Your kids share their assignments to it, your company uses it for all comms, you use it for private messages, you tell it your secret desires via searches, it knows who you're with at any point of time with android location ... Google Home? My home? SkyNet must be destroyed now.

raverbashing 8y ago
It's funny how GMaps is insisting to have me set a 'home and work' location as of lately. Thanks but no thanks. Of course they already might have an idea, but seems it's not enough for it to be certain.
- auslander 8y ago
  If it prompts you to set it, it means your browser is Already logged in in some tab (Auth cookie set). That is Bad idea. Login only when necessary and Always use private browser windows and tabs, it kills all sorts of cookies/storages.
jkaplowitz 8y ago
> only if it is not too late. 'Don't be evil' was removed from the code of conduct's preface in 2018. That is technically true but leaves the wrong impression. The code of conduct got reworded, leaving "Don't be evil" in a single prominent mention at the very end. "Removed" is only accurate for the preface; for the whole document, "deemphasized" is more correct (and that's only because many people don't read to the end where they'd now be left with "don't be evil" visible after doing so).
- auslander 8y ago
  Impression is still right. While your clarification is technically correct :D, I was talking about the Trend of moving it to less prominent places over time.
  - hahainternet 8y ago
    No you completely lied and are now trying to save face.
    - auslander 8y ago
      Lol :))) For others who missed the joke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil
- auslander 8y ago
  Did I left wrong impression ? Compare: 1) "Don't be evil." Googlers generally apply those words to how we serve our users. But "Don't be evil" is much more than that... The Google Code of Conduct is one of the ways we put "Don't be evil" into practice... - at the very beginning. This whole section in now gone, as if never happened ... web.archive.org/web/20180121070136/abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct.html 2) "And remember… don't be evil, and if you see something that you think isn't right – speak up!" - at the end of lengthy document, After the Conclusion section. abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct.html
  - hluska 8y ago
    Your original comment is poor. Google deemphasized the "don't be evil" clause, but they did not remove it from the document.
    - auslander 8y ago
      But it is correct, they removed it from Preface, did they not? It is not just 'deemphasised', the meaning has changed, It is now Not directly applied to Google: "And remember… don't be evil, and if you see something that you think isn't right – speak up!" - it applies to reader of the doc. And it got reduced from top 12 lines to 1 line at the end. Have you seen the original ?
      - hluska 8y ago
        No, you are wrong. The meaning nor target have not changed. The document is still Google's Code of Conduct and it is still prefaced with the admonishment that not following this could lead to termination. The new Code of Conduct is prefaced with the paragraphs: "The Google Code of Conduct is one of the ways we put Google’s values into practice. It’s built around the recognition that everything we do in connection with our work at Google will be, and should be, measured against the highest possible standards of ethical business conduct. We set the bar that high for practical as well as aspirational reasons: Our commitment to the highest standards helps us hire great people, build great products, and attract loyal users. Respect for our users, for the opportunity, and for each other are foundational to our success, and are something we need to support every day. So please do read the Code and Google’s values, and follow both in spirit and letter, always bearing in mind that each of us has a personal responsibility to incorporate, and to encourage other Googlers to incorporate, the principles of the Code and values into our work. And if you have a question or ever think that one of your fellow Googlers or the company as a whole may be falling short of our commitment, don’t be silent. We want – and need – to hear from you." The meaning is the same. One ugly, truly unwieldy paragraph was removed. The rest is significantly better as a result. And it applies to the exact same people as the original codes of conduct. Sorry bud, but you're wrong.

raverbashing 8y ago

It's funny how GMaps is insisting to have me set a 'home and work' location as of lately. Thanks but no thanks. Of course they already might have an idea, but seems it's not enough for it to be certain.

auslander 8y ago
If it prompts you to set it, it means your browser is Already logged in in some tab (Auth cookie set). That is Bad idea. Login only when necessary and Always use private browser windows and tabs, it kills all sorts of cookies/storages.

jkaplowitz 8y ago

> only if it is not too late. 'Don't be evil' was removed from the code of conduct's preface in 2018. That is technically true but leaves the wrong impression. The code of conduct got reworded, leaving "Don't be evil" in a single prominent mention at the very end. "Removed" is only accurate for the preface; for the whole document, "deemphasized" is more correct (and that's only because many people don't read to the end where they'd now be left with "don't be evil" visible after doing so).

auslander 8y ago
Impression is still right. While your clarification is technically correct :D, I was talking about the Trend of moving it to less prominent places over time.
- hahainternet 8y ago
  No you completely lied and are now trying to save face.
  - auslander 8y ago
    Lol :))) For others who missed the joke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil
auslander 8y ago
Did I left wrong impression ? Compare: 1) "Don't be evil." Googlers generally apply those words to how we serve our users. But "Don't be evil" is much more than that... The Google Code of Conduct is one of the ways we put "Don't be evil" into practice... - at the very beginning. This whole section in now gone, as if never happened ... web.archive.org/web/20180121070136/abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct.html 2) "And remember… don't be evil, and if you see something that you think isn't right – speak up!" - at the end of lengthy document, After the Conclusion section. abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct.html
- hluska 8y ago
  Your original comment is poor. Google deemphasized the "don't be evil" clause, but they did not remove it from the document.
  - auslander 8y ago
    But it is correct, they removed it from Preface, did they not? It is not just 'deemphasised', the meaning has changed, It is now Not directly applied to Google: "And remember… don't be evil, and if you see something that you think isn't right – speak up!" - it applies to reader of the doc. And it got reduced from top 12 lines to 1 line at the end. Have you seen the original ?
    - hluska 8y ago
      No, you are wrong. The meaning nor target have not changed. The document is still Google's Code of Conduct and it is still prefaced with the admonishment that not following this could lead to termination. The new Code of Conduct is prefaced with the paragraphs: "The Google Code of Conduct is one of the ways we put Google’s values into practice. It’s built around the recognition that everything we do in connection with our work at Google will be, and should be, measured against the highest possible standards of ethical business conduct. We set the bar that high for practical as well as aspirational reasons: Our commitment to the highest standards helps us hire great people, build great products, and attract loyal users. Respect for our users, for the opportunity, and for each other are foundational to our success, and are something we need to support every day. So please do read the Code and Google’s values, and follow both in spirit and letter, always bearing in mind that each of us has a personal responsibility to incorporate, and to encourage other Googlers to incorporate, the principles of the Code and values into our work. And if you have a question or ever think that one of your fellow Googlers or the company as a whole may be falling short of our commitment, don’t be silent. We want – and need – to hear from you." The meaning is the same. One ugly, truly unwieldy paragraph was removed. The rest is significantly better as a result. And it applies to the exact same people as the original codes of conduct. Sorry bud, but you're wrong.