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Sounds more like France has been acting in bad faith. You can't just decree a seizure of a domain because you're a political entity that wants it.

by maxk42 8y ago

craftyguy 8y ago
> You can't just decree a seizure of a domain because you're a political entity that wants it. This is literally a case of that happening. So, you can decree a seizure of a domain because you're a political entity that wants it.
- maxk42 8y ago
  Sure, and I suppose you could decree yourself ruler of the world, too. Reality, however, is another matter entirely. France will not win a legal battle over this outside of France.
  - tripletao 8y ago
    But the weird thing is that France didn't have to--the American registrar obeyed their order, for no clear reason. The domain has now been transferred to a French registrar. So even if an American court would never have ordered the domain transferred, it will be trickier (but probably not impossible, since Verisign ultimately controls .com and that's a US entity) for an America court order to get it back.
    - jacquesm 8y ago
      > So even if an American court would never have ordered the domain transferred American courts are typically quite sensitive to arguments made based on trademark law.
    - ryanlol 8y ago
      There’s simply nothing tricky about American courts taking over .com domains, at least not for the courts.
      - tripletao 8y ago
        I'm betting he incurs more legal fees than if the domain were still at a US registrar; but yeah, I agree that if a US court orders the .com back to him, then they can make it happen. The whole story is weird. When web.com first locked the domain, why didn't he seek an American court order to force web.com to transfer the domain to a friendly registrar?
jacquesm 8y ago
Apparently you can. Note to self: Do not antagonize government by appropriating stuff that you can reasonably expect might belong to them and if you do hand it over at the first opportunity to do so with your hide in one piece.
ryanlol 8y ago
IME Web.com and NetSol will give you domain to anyone who calls them. Not just France. Tesla got hacked this way, for example, I listened to the call recording.

Sounds more like France has been acting in bad faith. You can't just decree a seizure of a domain because you're a political entity that wants it.

by maxk42 8y ago

Sounds more like France has been acting in bad faith. You can't just decree a seizure of a domain because you're a political entity that wants it.

craftyguy 8y ago

> You can't just decree a seizure of a domain because you're a political entity that wants it. This is literally a case of that happening. So, you can decree a seizure of a domain because you're a political entity that wants it.

maxk42 8y ago
Sure, and I suppose you could decree yourself ruler of the world, too. Reality, however, is another matter entirely. France will not win a legal battle over this outside of France.
- tripletao 8y ago
  But the weird thing is that France didn't have to--the American registrar obeyed their order, for no clear reason. The domain has now been transferred to a French registrar. So even if an American court would never have ordered the domain transferred, it will be trickier (but probably not impossible, since Verisign ultimately controls .com and that's a US entity) for an America court order to get it back.
  - jacquesm 8y ago
    > So even if an American court would never have ordered the domain transferred American courts are typically quite sensitive to arguments made based on trademark law.
  - ryanlol 8y ago
    There’s simply nothing tricky about American courts taking over .com domains, at least not for the courts.
    - tripletao 8y ago
      I'm betting he incurs more legal fees than if the domain were still at a US registrar; but yeah, I agree that if a US court orders the .com back to him, then they can make it happen. The whole story is weird. When web.com first locked the domain, why didn't he seek an American court order to force web.com to transfer the domain to a friendly registrar?

jacquesm 8y ago

Apparently you can. Note to self: Do not antagonize government by appropriating stuff that you can reasonably expect might belong to them and if you do hand it over at the first opportunity to do so with your hide in one piece.

ryanlol 8y ago

IME Web.com and NetSol will give you domain to anyone who calls them. Not just France. Tesla got hacked this way, for example, I listened to the call recording.