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I am not predicting anything, this is how it has been implemented. You are aware this law is already in effect and thousands have been deleted/banned? But this
by naturalgradient 8y ago
I am not predicting anything, this is how it has been implemented. You are aware this law is already in effect and thousands have been deleted/banned?
But this debate is pointless because you clearly neither speak German, understand German law, nor are interested in revising your opinion that this is anything other than a fight of the righteous against the bad. The law is likely unconstitutional, widely overreaching, and does in fact delete these things:
https://verfassungsblog.de/das-netzdg-und-die-vermutung-fuer-die-freiheit-der-rede/ https://verfassungsblog.de/das-netzdg-und-die-vermutung-fuer...
https://netzpolitik.org/2018/die-meinungsfreiheit-und-das-netzdg-schwerwiegender-verstoss-gegen-grundrecht/ https://netzpolitik.org/2018/die-meinungsfreiheit-und-das-ne...
https://www.zeit.de/digital/internet/2017-03/heiko-maas-gesetzentwurf-soziale-netzwerke-hass-falschnachrichten https://www.zeit.de/digital/internet/2017-03/heiko-maas-gese...
There are countless examples, e.g. Facebook censoring satire accounts:
http://meedia.de/2018/01/03/netzdg-twitter-sperrt-account-des-satiremagazins-titanic-wg-beatrix-von-storch-und-loest-zensur-debatte-aus/ http://meedia.de/2018/01/03/netzdg-twitter-sperrt-account-de...
You are celebrating authoritarian censorship because you think it targets the right people. You are calling me out for something you have no firsthand knowledge or expertise on because of tribalism. Stop.
- KozmoNau7 8y agoFreedom of speech is not freedom from consequences. I am a firm supporter of free speech. I am also a firm believer in consequences when that speech leads to violence and persecution.
- jk2323 8y agoLook. Posting on facebook "lets lynch some {ni..ers, Jews, Arabs, minority of your choice} also gets you into trouble with the law in the states. I doubt that anyone claims this is free speech. But questioning the Open borders situation in Europe Germany in public (speak facebook) that is BLUNTLY violating German law and Dublin III regulation is what gets you blocked. It is a left wing junta in the final stages that is ruling Germany at the moment. And making law by chancellor decree has been out of fashion in Germany for over 70 years. Not a good idea to bring it back!
- KozmoNau7 8y agoOh, so all of those politicians and right wingers who are calling for hermetically closing the borders and imposing special laws on immigrants have all been fined and/or put in jail? That's great news! Why hadn't I heard about this before? Perhaps because it's complete nonsense? Left wing junta? With a Christian conservative chancellor and completely ineffectual so-called left wing parties? That's hilarious. Germany is drifting strongly to the right, and it must be stopped.
- jk2323 8y ago"Oh, so all of those politicians and right wingers who are calling for hermetically closing the borders and imposing special laws on immigrants have all been fined and/or put in jail?" Some of them. How about not calling for new laws, how about applying EXISTING laws? "That's great news! Why hadn't I heard about this before? Perhaps because it's complete nonsense?" Possibly. But also possible that you get your news from Spiegel Online. We will never know... "Left wing junta? With a Christian conservative chancellor and completely ineffectual so-called left wing parties?" Former Stasi Agent Merkel is a left-wing dream come true. All left wing projects were realized by her. Marriage for all? Sure. (By the way Marriage with a child? Ok, we accept if you are a Muslim immigrant. Polygamy? Okay, we accept.) End of nuclear energy? Done by Merkel. Energy revolution? Done! Open boarders for all? Done! It is not surprising that the left wing musician Campino and former left wing foreign minister Fischer have strongly spoken for Merkel. "We can not have a better chancellor than her". IM Erika (her Stasi undercover name) has been a nightmare for Germany.
- KozmoNau7 8y agoYour obvious bias is severely clouding your judgment. Merkel is solidly centre to centre-right. The only reason she seems "left" to you, is because she doesn't support the frothing-at-the-mouth rabid nationalism that AfD espouse.
- jk2323 8y ago"Merkel is solidly centre to centre-right. " Cough, cough. Look, I gave REASONS why I think she is extremely left wing. Pointing out that she is leading the conservative party is not enough to counter my point. What in her politics is conservative, right, or liberal? (I would consider "marriage for all" liberal but in the end marriage should be not the business of the government) What does the AfD stand for? Basically AfD is CDU before Merkel.