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Fruits are given to you by nature, no one takes them violently (unless picked unripe, which is a problem on its own in this country). Also unlike dead flesh, th

by aviv 8y ago

Fruits are given to you by nature, no one takes them violently (unless picked unripe, which is a problem on its own in this country). Also unlike dead flesh, they take at most 30ish minutes to digest, not hours where they go rancid in your body like most other foods.

coldtea 8y ago
>Fruits are given to you by nature, no one takes them violently You'd be surprised: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic >Also unlike dead flesh This has a tone of religious indignation in it. You do know that it's not only perfectly natural, but that there are species that have evolved evolutionary to eat meat, the ones we call carnivores, right?
- aviv 8y ago
  Again you resort to extremes to justify your (likely) unhealthy lifestyle and make a point that really contributes nothing to the conversation. And then, what is your second point there? Are you a carnivore? Why is "dead flesh" triggering you so much? Are you ripping into live animals in the wild and swallowing them whole? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, I would love to meet the first lion using HN.
  - coldtea 8y ago
    >And then, what is your second point there? Are you a carnivore? No, but I'm an omnivore, and belong to a species that has been known to be eating meat all throughout its evolutionary history [1], and throughout all its 4+ millennia of actual civilization and history, all around the world. So, there's that. >Why is "dead flesh" triggering you so much? Don't confuse someone objecting to morally loaded language like "dead flesh" with being "triggered". In fact, don't use cheap parlor tricks like "why are you triggered" to shift the discussion from arguments to sentiments and ad hominem. >Are you ripping into live animals in the wild and swallowing them whole? If live oysters qualify, then yes. But usually we don't call what we eat "dead flesh", in the same way we don't say we eat "ground wheat" when we eat bread or pasta. we eat steaks and meatballs and so on. We also don't eat just the flesh. We also eat the skin -- and some of us, we enjoy the bone marrow too. So your phrasing is just a cheap (and insulting to our intelligence) trick to impose a sentimental undertone to the discussion. Which is part of the reason you have been downvoted to grayness. Plus, fruits and plants are still alive when you eat them (their cells are still working fine) -- so, are you eating them alive? You monster! [1] https://www.americanscientist.org/article/meat-eating-among-the-earliest-humans https://www.americanscientist.org/article/meat-eating-among-...

by aviv 8y ago

coldtea 8y ago

>Fruits are given to you by nature, no one takes them violently You'd be surprised: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic >Also unlike dead flesh This has a tone of religious indignation in it. You do know that it's not only perfectly natural, but that there are species that have evolved evolutionary to eat meat, the ones we call carnivores, right?

aviv 8y ago
Again you resort to extremes to justify your (likely) unhealthy lifestyle and make a point that really contributes nothing to the conversation. And then, what is your second point there? Are you a carnivore? Why is "dead flesh" triggering you so much? Are you ripping into live animals in the wild and swallowing them whole? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, I would love to meet the first lion using HN.
- coldtea 8y ago
  >And then, what is your second point there? Are you a carnivore? No, but I'm an omnivore, and belong to a species that has been known to be eating meat all throughout its evolutionary history [1], and throughout all its 4+ millennia of actual civilization and history, all around the world. So, there's that. >Why is "dead flesh" triggering you so much? Don't confuse someone objecting to morally loaded language like "dead flesh" with being "triggered". In fact, don't use cheap parlor tricks like "why are you triggered" to shift the discussion from arguments to sentiments and ad hominem. >Are you ripping into live animals in the wild and swallowing them whole? If live oysters qualify, then yes. But usually we don't call what we eat "dead flesh", in the same way we don't say we eat "ground wheat" when we eat bread or pasta. we eat steaks and meatballs and so on. We also don't eat just the flesh. We also eat the skin -- and some of us, we enjoy the bone marrow too. So your phrasing is just a cheap (and insulting to our intelligence) trick to impose a sentimental undertone to the discussion. Which is part of the reason you have been downvoted to grayness. Plus, fruits and plants are still alive when you eat them (their cells are still working fine) -- so, are you eating them alive? You monster! [1] https://www.americanscientist.org/article/meat-eating-among-the-earliest-humans https://www.americanscientist.org/article/meat-eating-among-...