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Please stop repeating that canard, it got old years ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=297297 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=297297

by blasdel 16y ago

argsv 16y ago
this is a bit newer http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os
- blasdel 16y ago
  I'm actually waiting to buy a Netbook until it comes out, in the vain hope that someone will ship a decent ARM-based system using it. But it is just slightly-extended Chrome running directly in X unparented without the standard Gnome Desktop BS on otherwise stock Ubuntu.
  - aaronblohowiak 16y ago
    tmux+vim+chrome is all i really need. (and a full posix system down below, of course)
    - blasdel 16y ago
      What I want is NaCL implementations of urxvt+SSH and VNC/RDP. I don't need yet another local posix system to maintain, I want remote access to my real server where my main screen session lives, and I want that access to live in a tab.
      - aaronblohowiak 16y ago
        you can get vnc over html5, thought it may not be as fast as you'd like.
scott_s 16y ago
I thought that analysis was ridiculous the first time I read it. I read Chrome's design docs when they were released. Chrome's design is approaching that of an operating system. Considering that it has to manage processes, there is no alternative.
- blasdel 16y ago
  But that's the thing, it's only managing processes, not scheduling them nor managing the minutia of their stacks — it devolves that responsibility to the real kernel by using 'dumb' native processes instead of inventing its own fucked coroutines with a browser-wide GIL for all the logically-independent javascript environments. It is less OS-like than any other major browser!
  - scott_s 16y ago
    Correct, it is not an operating system. Just as the Java Virtual Machine is not an operating system. But when you start using principles and common designs from operating systems, you are approaching the design of an operating system.

Please stop repeating that canard, it got old years ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=297297 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=297297

by blasdel 16y ago

Please stop repeating that canard, it got old years ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=297297 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=297297

argsv 16y ago

this is a bit newer http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os

blasdel 16y ago
I'm actually waiting to buy a Netbook until it comes out, in the vain hope that someone will ship a decent ARM-based system using it. But it is just slightly-extended Chrome running directly in X unparented without the standard Gnome Desktop BS on otherwise stock Ubuntu.
- aaronblohowiak 16y ago
  tmux+vim+chrome is all i really need. (and a full posix system down below, of course)
  - blasdel 16y ago
    What I want is NaCL implementations of urxvt+SSH and VNC/RDP. I don't need yet another local posix system to maintain, I want remote access to my real server where my main screen session lives, and I want that access to live in a tab.
    - aaronblohowiak 16y ago
      you can get vnc over html5, thought it may not be as fast as you'd like.

scott_s 16y ago

I thought that analysis was ridiculous the first time I read it. I read Chrome's design docs when they were released. Chrome's design is approaching that of an operating system. Considering that it has to manage processes, there is no alternative.

blasdel 16y ago
But that's the thing, it's only managing processes, not scheduling them nor managing the minutia of their stacks — it devolves that responsibility to the real kernel by using 'dumb' native processes instead of inventing its own fucked coroutines with a browser-wide GIL for all the logically-independent javascript environments. It is less OS-like than any other major browser!
- scott_s 16y ago
  Correct, it is not an operating system. Just as the Java Virtual Machine is not an operating system. But when you start using principles and common designs from operating systems, you are approaching the design of an operating system.