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This- also history thought us that shunned and silenced ideas, get a "cool" bonus with the youth, who just search for a reason to provoke the previous generatio
by Pica_soO 8y ago
This- also history thought us that shunned and silenced ideas, get a "cool" bonus with the youth, who just search for a reason to provoke the previous generation.
Its unbelievable, that the same methods that where used to "prevent" the spreading of Gangsta-culture, and horribly "failed" (because the music was good) are used to contain extreme-right ideas. As a result a whole generation of youth, will take to the alt-right as a "our-culture" movement and do the hitler-crib-walk.
If the left ever want to recover from living historys memory fading, it has not only to rethink its core concepts but also its tools. Cause there attempts at society control basically boil down to supporting the opposing sites cause.
Half, of those alt-righters you see, are basically under-class trying to distance themselves as far as possible from what is perceived as entitled culture-controll-class of university dwelling aristocrats.
In short, that is the proletariat the left was made off. The irony.
It also does not help that whenever you talk with them, this hidden enthusiasm for totalitarian systems (Putins Russia/China) flares up, where "the gloves are off" for Place-unwanted-Group-Here.
- KozmoNau7 8y agoYou have a very strange view of "the left".
- mantas 8y agoIt's kinda correct though. Not all Left is such, but the problem is Left is tolerating people with such ideas as long as they are Left. Edit: for all the downvoters, explain why Left tolerates Stalinists or USSR apologists in their ranks. Recently the Left seem to have a problem with antisemitism on some countries too.
- KozmoNau7 8y ago"The left" is not some sort of grand organization with common leadership and common goals. I certainly don't support tankies nor the USSR dictatorship and oppression, nor do the vast majority of people with left-wing views.
- mantas 8y agoThere's enough people who pretend to be "the Left" and do support or at least enable those people. Thus "the Left" is retarded. But some sane parts are OK. I'd prefer leftist to drop umbrealla naming and just split into factions. Pro-totalitarian/tankies, commie apologists, social democrats etc. But when I offer that, people seem to defend grandiose "the Left" :/
- KozmoNau7 8y agoMaybe if you stopped antagonizing and name-calling people with left wing views, you would be met with a lot less hostility. "There's enough people who pretend to be "the Right" and do support or at least enable [fascists and neo-nazi]. Thus "the Right" is retarded. But some sane parts are OK."
- mantas 8y agoI couldn't agree more that "the Right" is retarded. What drives me mad is both "the Right" and "the Left" is different sides of the same coin. Both has their fair share of retards and genuinely good people. Both point of views have both pros and cons. Yet few bad apples on both sides seems to be stopping everybody else from productive discourse. What is funny, "the Right" was getting more flack for quite a while. Thus they seem to be distancing themselves from their own retards more than "the Left". Good example could be UK. Corbyn's Labour seem to have quite a few issues with that. Meanwhile the right is nicely fragmented into more and less sane parts. Which, while causing it's own problems, does help them with their image. It looks like there's a similar pattern in many countries. IMO if "the Left" embraced it and let it's retards do their own thing, the whole society would benefit in the long run.
- KozmoNau7 8y agoYou're making a clear appeal to "the truth is in the middle, both sides are good/bad, only centrists have it right", which is nonsense. Reality and objective truth leans more to the left, in comparison to the current political climate, which is unfortunately skewing to the right in a lot of countries.