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I've thought for a while that the right thing, given bulletproof privacy controls anyway, was a wearable camera that just captures 24/7 video/audio with retrosp

I've thought for a while that the right thing, given bulletproof privacy controls anyway, was a wearable camera that just captures 24/7 video/audio with retrospective analysis for significance. I don't know of anyone I'd trust with such a stream, though. It would have to be on device, as they say.

davchana 8y ago
but if it is only on device, (the video) then it is easily possible to get the device damaged, lost, broken, robbed in order to stop that retrospective analysis by a bad actor.
- jaggederest 8y ago
  My goal is not "preventing bad things", but rather "remembering interesting things".
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- conradev 8y ago
  What if the data was synced between a small circle of your devices using end to end encryption and each device itself had full disk encryption with a strong security model to back it? Prevents against most common data loss scenarios while protecting the information from bad actors.
- TeMPOraL 8y ago
  Or a good actor. Let's not pretend it's only good actors that want privacy, and bad actors that want access.
  - davchana 8y ago
    i meant robbed or damaged by a bad actor, Analysis I meant for user's own use by user.
askvictor 8y ago
Microsoft developed such a camera years ago (sensecam) . Ahead of its time, or possibly the hardware at the time didn't make it feasible. Edit: it was called the sensecam https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SenseCam https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SenseCam
icebraining 8y ago
I thought about that too, but ultimately decided it wouldn't be ethical. And probably illegal in many situations.
- mcny 8y ago
  I've been to a few events (including pro privacy events). My understanding is that all you need (in the US) is to make them aware with a sign that says by entering this room, yada yada yada.
  - icebraining 8y ago
    A wearable doesn't record only in your room, though; it goes everywhere you do.
Shinkirou 8y ago
Black Mirror S01E03. Even with bullet-proof privacy, not a future I would want to live in...
- mittermayr 8y ago
  Much like there is a XKCD for everything, there'll be a Black Mirror episode, too :)
- jonex 8y ago
  What I saw in that episode was people being assholes to each other, the fact that they also happened to have a tool to prove things wasn't really the major factor. Especially the final point was a bit off to me, sure, it happens that we would be happier not knowing specific things, but being unsure about things can be pretty terrible as well and just as well destroy life. We don't expect people to show us their diaries, we don't expect people to retell their awkward memories. We even generally try to gauge the situation before retelling a story about a friend (maybe their embarrassing blackout last weekend is not what we talk about with their boss). This is all in the social rules and conventions, and doesn't have to do with limitations in our ability to do so. We already have the technology to record all digital communication. Seems like most people can handle this just fine.

davchana 8y ago

but if it is only on device, (the video) then it is easily possible to get the device damaged, lost, broken, robbed in order to stop that retrospective analysis by a bad actor.

jaggederest 8y ago
My goal is not "preventing bad things", but rather "remembering interesting things".
- deleted 8y ago
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conradev 8y ago
What if the data was synced between a small circle of your devices using end to end encryption and each device itself had full disk encryption with a strong security model to back it? Prevents against most common data loss scenarios while protecting the information from bad actors.
TeMPOraL 8y ago
Or a good actor. Let's not pretend it's only good actors that want privacy, and bad actors that want access.
- davchana 8y ago
  i meant robbed or damaged by a bad actor, Analysis I meant for user's own use by user.

askvictor 8y ago

Microsoft developed such a camera years ago (sensecam) . Ahead of its time, or possibly the hardware at the time didn't make it feasible. Edit: it was called the sensecam https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SenseCam https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SenseCam

icebraining 8y ago

I thought about that too, but ultimately decided it wouldn't be ethical. And probably illegal in many situations.

mcny 8y ago
I've been to a few events (including pro privacy events). My understanding is that all you need (in the US) is to make them aware with a sign that says by entering this room, yada yada yada.
- icebraining 8y ago
  A wearable doesn't record only in your room, though; it goes everywhere you do.

Shinkirou 8y ago

Black Mirror S01E03. Even with bullet-proof privacy, not a future I would want to live in...

mittermayr 8y ago
Much like there is a XKCD for everything, there'll be a Black Mirror episode, too :)
jonex 8y ago
What I saw in that episode was people being assholes to each other, the fact that they also happened to have a tool to prove things wasn't really the major factor. Especially the final point was a bit off to me, sure, it happens that we would be happier not knowing specific things, but being unsure about things can be pretty terrible as well and just as well destroy life. We don't expect people to show us their diaries, we don't expect people to retell their awkward memories. We even generally try to gauge the situation before retelling a story about a friend (maybe their embarrassing blackout last weekend is not what we talk about with their boss). This is all in the social rules and conventions, and doesn't have to do with limitations in our ability to do so. We already have the technology to record all digital communication. Seems like most people can handle this just fine.