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> What in modern living is knocking the body off its center? Abundance and industrial processing. Europe doesn't have the same problem the rest of the 1st wor

> What in modern living is knocking the body off its center? Abundance and industrial processing. Europe doesn't have the same problem the rest of the 1st world has with obesity. They also have crazy strict food purity laws. No additives. Very little processing. What you get is what's on the label[0]. I don't think it's a coincidence that people see improvements in their health once they start eating "closer to the farm." We're also a victim of our own success in many ways. The human body is still adapted to operate under pre-agricultural conditions. Food consumption was more along the lines of "binge and starve" than "steady grazing". Our bodies deteriorate quickly in space when we no longer have Earth's gravity to fight against. Is it really a surprise that our bodies also deteriorate when we no longer have hunger to fight against? [0]: Before anybody says that what's on the label is accurate in the US, look into what 'natural flavor' means. There's nothing natural about them and they aren't necessarily flavorings.

okr 8y ago
I would like to see a definition, of what "a center" is. And what is normal? Is pre-agriculture normal? Or were they all sick, just in a different way? Is getting a hundred years old normal? Is being healthy on the surface normal or just a temporary balance between all chaotic influences? Or is it just luck, to be able to cope with present environment? I do not know. And i can not judge, if we have enough data to judge. But i think, calling out abundance and industrial processing, i am sure, there are correlations, but as reason for knocking people off center? Its just energy, no?
- ryanmarsh 8y ago
  If you look at where our gut originated from (requiring cooked food incidentally some think around the time fire was discovered/tamed) then “normal” would be starve/binge. The agricultural revolution would be a very recent development. Hell we have an unnecessary organ just for binging on fat.
- chiefalchemist 8y ago
  If taking baking soda helps then not having to take baking soda would be normal. The arc of my point / question was is this: Why do we keep "curing" that which can be prevented? Instead we keep grabbing the balloon, and then pay (more) to add that "cure" to our lives. T2 Diabetes is not normal. It is preventable. We have a "cure." But instead of using that cure, we're investing - read: wasting - resources looking for a cure that will need to be paid for. Inflamation is (likely) the same. Mind you, baking soda is inexpensive. But as cures go, prevention (and a return to a natural norm) is #1.
pg314 8y ago
> Europe doesn't have the same problem the rest of the 1st world has with obesity. Europe has the same problem, only to a lesser degree. According to [1]: Weight problems and obesity are increasing at a rapid rate in most of the EU Member States, with estimates of 51.6 % of the EU’s population (18 and over) overweight in 2014. [1] http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Overweight_and_obesity_-_BMI_statistics http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/...

okr 8y ago

I would like to see a definition, of what "a center" is. And what is normal? Is pre-agriculture normal? Or were they all sick, just in a different way? Is getting a hundred years old normal? Is being healthy on the surface normal or just a temporary balance between all chaotic influences? Or is it just luck, to be able to cope with present environment? I do not know. And i can not judge, if we have enough data to judge. But i think, calling out abundance and industrial processing, i am sure, there are correlations, but as reason for knocking people off center? Its just energy, no?

ryanmarsh 8y ago
If you look at where our gut originated from (requiring cooked food incidentally some think around the time fire was discovered/tamed) then “normal” would be starve/binge. The agricultural revolution would be a very recent development. Hell we have an unnecessary organ just for binging on fat.
chiefalchemist 8y ago
If taking baking soda helps then not having to take baking soda would be normal. The arc of my point / question was is this: Why do we keep "curing" that which can be prevented? Instead we keep grabbing the balloon, and then pay (more) to add that "cure" to our lives. T2 Diabetes is not normal. It is preventable. We have a "cure." But instead of using that cure, we're investing - read: wasting - resources looking for a cure that will need to be paid for. Inflamation is (likely) the same. Mind you, baking soda is inexpensive. But as cures go, prevention (and a return to a natural norm) is #1.

pg314 8y ago

> Europe doesn't have the same problem the rest of the 1st world has with obesity. Europe has the same problem, only to a lesser degree. According to [1]: Weight problems and obesity are increasing at a rapid rate in most of the EU Member States, with estimates of 51.6 % of the EU’s population (18 and over) overweight in 2014. [1] http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Overweight_and_obesity_-_BMI_statistics http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/...