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> HN is particularly susceptible to it. Its method for dealing with bad information is that honest users will correct it with good information - the old, genera

> HN is particularly susceptible to it. Its method for dealing with bad information is that honest users will correct it with good information - the old, generally good idea that the answer to bad speech is more speech. But remember with HN that "truth" is groupthink. There are many topics you cannot discuss here, even rationally. You will be punished with -1's, rate limiting, flagged/killed, shadowbanning, or other tools only those with more points (Read: positive groupthink) have. I came to HN for the hard discussion about technology. I find that unless I agree with the elites in Silicon Valley, that my opinions and facts are not wanted or cared about. And regarding the "the old, generally good idea that the answer to bad speech is more speech.".... You're commenting too fast. Slow down. (In other words, shut the fuck up and go away.)

forapurpose 8y ago
> HN that "truth" is groupthink Not in my experience. I mean, people are people everywhere, but IMHO HN is exceptional is this regard; I see less of it here than almost anywhere else. > unless I agree with the elites in Silicon Valley, that my opinions and facts are not wanted or cared about. The phrase "elites in Silicon Valley" conveys a lot. It throws some (unknown) individuals into a group, characterizes them all as just a stereotype, pigeon-holes them all into being representatives of it, and accuses them in the next sentence of abusing this role that someone else put them in. Personally, I don't know who the phrase refers to; I find that the responses I get here rely much more on the soundness of my fact, reasoning, and expertise than on premeditated opinion, and the quality of my communication. > You're commenting too fast. Slow down. (In other words, shut the fuck up and go away.) That's produced by an algorithm; I wouldn't take it personally.
- MikkoFinell 8y ago
  > Not in my experience. I mean, people are people everywhere, but IMHO HN is exceptional is this regard; I see less of it here than almost anywhere else. As an experiment, go to some relevant thread and courteously imply you don't share the belief that Rust is the greatest invention since penicillin. Then watch what happens to your karma.
  - pjc50 8y ago
    That depends a lot on how you present that argument.

forapurpose 8y ago

> HN that "truth" is groupthink Not in my experience. I mean, people are people everywhere, but IMHO HN is exceptional is this regard; I see less of it here than almost anywhere else. > unless I agree with the elites in Silicon Valley, that my opinions and facts are not wanted or cared about. The phrase "elites in Silicon Valley" conveys a lot. It throws some (unknown) individuals into a group, characterizes them all as just a stereotype, pigeon-holes them all into being representatives of it, and accuses them in the next sentence of abusing this role that someone else put them in. Personally, I don't know who the phrase refers to; I find that the responses I get here rely much more on the soundness of my fact, reasoning, and expertise than on premeditated opinion, and the quality of my communication. > You're commenting too fast. Slow down. (In other words, shut the fuck up and go away.) That's produced by an algorithm; I wouldn't take it personally.

MikkoFinell 8y ago
> Not in my experience. I mean, people are people everywhere, but IMHO HN is exceptional is this regard; I see less of it here than almost anywhere else. As an experiment, go to some relevant thread and courteously imply you don't share the belief that Rust is the greatest invention since penicillin. Then watch what happens to your karma.
- pjc50 8y ago
  That depends a lot on how you present that argument.