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Disabling Callkit for China Apps
- xevb3k 8y agoCurious as to why China would want to block Callkit specifically. Is this just an easy way of saying “actually we don’t want apps with any kind of VOIP functionality and will eventually block you anyway”.
- Rjevski 8y agoThankfully they’re starting to support WebRTC in Safari so secure comms on iPhones in China are still possible.
- chatmasta 8y agoWebRTC still needs a TURN server when two clients are communicating behind symmetric NAT, which would certainly be the case in China. The TURN server is not responsible for any encryption.
- Rjevski 8y agoCan't clients do their own encryption though?
- chatmasta 8y agoYeah for sure. But it’s not secure by default, and clients still can’t hide the metadata like peer addresses, connection time, bandwidth usage etc.
- kodablah 8y agoWebRTC has built in e2e encryption IIRC.
- fulafel 8y agoNo ipv6 on Chinese carriers?
- rahimnathwani 8y agoYes. Same reason iPhones and iPads sold in China can't make or receive FaceTime Audio(-only) calls, even when used outside China, and even after firmware upgrades etc.
- kaptain 8y agoI've never purchased a "new from the Apple Store" iPhone in China. But I've purchased a second-hand/refurbished US model iPhone in country off of Taobao. And you can make/receive FaceTime Audio-only calls with it, in-country.
- rahimnathwani 8y agoYes, iPhones manufactured for countries other than China aren't affected. It's only the ones that are made for China, and distributed through the the apple store or carriers' own stores.
- Terretta 8y agoThis may be an alternate explanation for what seem to be 3 out of 5 buyers in line at Apple iPhone launch events in NYC area being Chinese nationals with no English? I assumed they were reselling locally in the NYC grey market electronics shops, but why all Chinese? Taking non-crippled phones back home, or making it easier for tourists to get in these shops, makes sense.
- ksec 8y agoThey are simply reselling it for profits. iPhone Trading in Grey Market are billion dollar business, not to mention US tends to get allocated the most iPhone per stores, and are one of the cheapest worldwide. * The cheapest is actually iPhone in Japan, but due to hardware enabled sound when taking photos as required by law, there aren't any demand for Japanese iPhone.
- rahimnathwani 8y agoiPhones are cheaper in the US than in China. But I'm not sure why they would buy them in NYC rather than HK. HK and the US have similar list prices for the iPhone, but HK has no sales tax, and is closer to mainland China.
- smilekzs 8y agoMost likely making way for state-sponsored "innovations" (with "completely own intellectual property") to thrive instead.
- ksec 8y agoIt forces you to call using the National Network, which are all monitored anyway. I am surprise iMessages Still works in China though.
- gigatexal 8y agoI feel bad for the Chinese Internet loving nerds and non-nerds alike. Their government is a repressive and misguided authoritarian regime that needs to be removed.
- gonnadoit05 8y agoThey’re not complaining, if anything, China is looking to influence their neighbors to follow authoritarian suit.