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>the anger they feel about ${Political Party A} is the same way that the opposition feels about ${Political Party B}. Do you ever talk about this in meatspace?

>the anger they feel about ${Political Party A} is the same way that the opposition feels about ${Political Party B}. Do you ever talk about this in meatspace? Personally, the inability for many people to grasp this has been quite frustrating.

archagon 8y ago
I'm sorry, but just because two parties have equal amounts of power and vitriol towards each other does not give them any degree moral parity. This sort of "equivalence by emotion" means absolutely nothing.
- mistermann 8y ago
  It's interesting, he made absolutely no mention that he considered them morally equivalent, yet you refer to that notion in a very passionate manner. Do you believe it is possible for anyone to hold partially imperfect beliefs? Do you believe it is possible for you to hold partially imperfect beliefs? Do you think it's possible that some people mistake matters of opinion (or personal preference) for matters of fact? Do you think it's possible for two people two hold differing opinions on a specific subject, with neither of them being wrong? I appreciate that in these times these types of questions might be considered deliberately hostile, but I say them with non-hostile intent, as hard to believe as that may be. I think they are valid, and extremely relevant. It's these sorts of questions that I hope some day can be discussed in a reasonable and respectful manner in a public forum. There was a time not so long ago that we could do so, I hope initiatives like this might help to regain that capability in the internet age. I will link a few videos that I believe are quite thought provoking in this respect, I would be surprised if you don't as well after you've finished watching them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SOQduoLgRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SOQduoLgRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMqPcVUTlD4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMqPcVUTlD4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gZ5UD1hFM4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gZ5UD1hFM4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKIhk3zOE4k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKIhk3zOE4k
  - hkmurakami 8y ago
    >Do you think it's possible that some people mistake matters of opinion (or personal preference) for matters of fact? Do you think it's possible for two people two hold differing opinions on a specific subject, with neither of them being wrong? This is uncanny -- it's like I'm listening to myself speak. I'd be interested in talking to you privately if you're interested. Shoot me a message at the address in my profile.
    - mistermann 8y ago
      Sent, hopefully I interpreted your email address correctly.
      - hkmurakami 8y ago
        Not received ;). me "at" hkmurakami.com Apologies for my cryptic code (is that statement redundant?)
        mistermann 8y ago
        How about now?

archagon 8y ago

I'm sorry, but just because two parties have equal amounts of power and vitriol towards each other does not give them any degree moral parity. This sort of "equivalence by emotion" means absolutely nothing.

mistermann 8y ago
It's interesting, he made absolutely no mention that he considered them morally equivalent, yet you refer to that notion in a very passionate manner. Do you believe it is possible for anyone to hold partially imperfect beliefs? Do you believe it is possible for you to hold partially imperfect beliefs? Do you think it's possible that some people mistake matters of opinion (or personal preference) for matters of fact? Do you think it's possible for two people two hold differing opinions on a specific subject, with neither of them being wrong? I appreciate that in these times these types of questions might be considered deliberately hostile, but I say them with non-hostile intent, as hard to believe as that may be. I think they are valid, and extremely relevant. It's these sorts of questions that I hope some day can be discussed in a reasonable and respectful manner in a public forum. There was a time not so long ago that we could do so, I hope initiatives like this might help to regain that capability in the internet age. I will link a few videos that I believe are quite thought provoking in this respect, I would be surprised if you don't as well after you've finished watching them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SOQduoLgRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SOQduoLgRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMqPcVUTlD4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMqPcVUTlD4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gZ5UD1hFM4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gZ5UD1hFM4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKIhk3zOE4k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKIhk3zOE4k
- hkmurakami 8y ago
  >Do you think it's possible that some people mistake matters of opinion (or personal preference) for matters of fact? Do you think it's possible for two people two hold differing opinions on a specific subject, with neither of them being wrong? This is uncanny -- it's like I'm listening to myself speak. I'd be interested in talking to you privately if you're interested. Shoot me a message at the address in my profile.
  - mistermann 8y ago
    Sent, hopefully I interpreted your email address correctly.
    - hkmurakami 8y ago
      Not received ;). me "at" hkmurakami.com Apologies for my cryptic code (is that statement redundant?)
      - mistermann 8y ago
        How about now?