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And if you haven't read jwz's classic, you are in for a treat (text formatting, possible HN custom diatribe aside) https://www.jwz.org/blog/2002/11/engineering

And if you haven't read jwz's classic, you are in for a treat (text formatting, possible HN custom diatribe aside) https://www.jwz.org/blog/2002/11/engineering-pornography/ https://www.jwz.org/blog/2002/11/engineering-pornography/

sanjayts 8y ago
Warning, NSFW!
maxxxxx 8y ago
There should be much more like this. They show how good engineers really think and solve problems. Instead we have all this hero worship about geniuses and their magic where we can learn nothing from.
js2 8y ago
JWZ hates HN. Here’s a derefered link: http://www.dereferer.org/?https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ejwz%2Eorg%2Fblog%2F2002%2F11%2Fengineering%2Dpornography%2F http://www.dereferer.org/?https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ejwz%2Eorg%2Fbl...
- vernie 8y ago
  That rules.
- textmode 8y ago
  This (redirect) still sends referrer to www.dereferer.org. The user also has to lookup and visit two sites instead of one. Do browsers today not allow users to set the referrer? Google and countless web businesses prefix urls and act as "dereferers" so they can collect referers instead of the target websites. There is no shortage of "derefered" links on the www. A "dereferer" may be useful for a website owner, but is it useful to a user? The "defererer" can track the external sites its users visit, creating a log of users' www browsing, but how does that benefit the user? For the user, this is sharing far more information with the "dereferer" than with any individual target site. Is the "Referer" header truly necessary for the user? It is not even spelled correctly. I have been using the www with target url set as referer instead of referring url for decades with almost zero problems. The times when a site demands a certain referer are so few and far between that I cannot remember the last time it happened.
  - js2 8y ago
    The link was only to hide the referer header from JWZ because he chooses to show a very crude image to HN readers. That's all.
    - textmode 8y ago
      https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Referrer https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Referrer about:config network.http.referer.spoofSource
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pfarrell 8y ago
The farther you get into that article, the more it makes me think about the turbo-encabulator. SFW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag
mieseratte 8y ago
Be careful clicking that link at work! You might get an image of a testicle in an egg cup along with a caption claiming we're all money obsessed man children. Of course he made his millions in the first dot so he's a bit of a hypocrite...
- always_good 8y ago
  Also, the redirect + image doesn't exactly give the impression of maturity.

sanjayts 8y ago

Warning, NSFW!

maxxxxx 8y ago

There should be much more like this. They show how good engineers really think and solve problems. Instead we have all this hero worship about geniuses and their magic where we can learn nothing from.

js2 8y ago

JWZ hates HN. Here’s a derefered link: http://www.dereferer.org/?https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ejwz%2Eorg%2Fblog%2F2002%2F11%2Fengineering%2Dpornography%2F http://www.dereferer.org/?https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ejwz%2Eorg%2Fbl...

vernie 8y ago
That rules.
textmode 8y ago
This (redirect) still sends referrer to www.dereferer.org. The user also has to lookup and visit two sites instead of one. Do browsers today not allow users to set the referrer? Google and countless web businesses prefix urls and act as "dereferers" so they can collect referers instead of the target websites. There is no shortage of "derefered" links on the www. A "dereferer" may be useful for a website owner, but is it useful to a user? The "defererer" can track the external sites its users visit, creating a log of users' www browsing, but how does that benefit the user? For the user, this is sharing far more information with the "dereferer" than with any individual target site. Is the "Referer" header truly necessary for the user? It is not even spelled correctly. I have been using the www with target url set as referer instead of referring url for decades with almost zero problems. The times when a site demands a certain referer are so few and far between that I cannot remember the last time it happened.
- js2 8y ago
  The link was only to hide the referer header from JWZ because he chooses to show a very crude image to HN readers. That's all.
  - textmode 8y ago
    https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Referrer https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Referrer about:config network.http.referer.spoofSource
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pfarrell 8y ago

The farther you get into that article, the more it makes me think about the turbo-encabulator. SFW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag

mieseratte 8y ago

Be careful clicking that link at work! You might get an image of a testicle in an egg cup along with a caption claiming we're all money obsessed man children. Of course he made his millions in the first dot so he's a bit of a hypocrite...

always_good 8y ago
Also, the redirect + image doesn't exactly give the impression of maturity.