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I don't accept that for a moment. Monopoly over land predates humans, as any observation of territorial creatures will let you know.
by barrkel 8y ago
I don't accept that for a moment. Monopoly over land predates humans, as any observation of territorial creatures will let you know.
- rayiner 8y agoTerritorial creatures have possession, not property, which is completely different. Bashing someone's head in and taking their property is natural right. Having the State send men with guns in response to that action is a highly artificial deprivation of that natural right.
- mijamo 8y agoI think you should read about natural rights. The traditional natural righta are life, liberty, and property, which is the opposite of what you describe. And natural rights only exist in an organized society, they are just the limits of what a human should give in its social contract with the society.
- icebraining 8y agoI'm pretty sure rayiner knows what the concept is, he's criticizing it for misusing the term "natural" and he's replacing it for something that is actually natural. Besides, current property is quite far from the Lockean concept of mixing your own labor and only taking it when "there is enough, and as good, left in common for others", which the original "natural right of property".
- mywittyname 8y ago> Having the State send men with guns in response to that action is a highly artificial deprivation of that natural right. Pack animals will do the same. If you attempt to take their property, the leader (State) will likely engage with you.
- harryh 8y agoAnimals might have monopoly over land that they are physically standing on and protecting right this very second. But they have no concept of property: land in some other place far away from them that somehow remains theirs even if they aren't there or never intend to go there. That sort of property is solely a creation of the modern state.