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This is just an author wishlist and not the reality. I especially find the "clearing house" fantasy amusing. How he thinks this house of bureaucrats will be abl
by merinowool 8y ago
This is just an author wishlist and not the reality. I especially find the "clearing house" fantasy amusing. How he thinks this house of bureaucrats will be able to judge that John Does complaint has any merit?
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- orcdork 8y agoI recognized your user name from the other thread (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17095217 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17095217), it looks like you've made up your mind (to the point where your comments where ridiculous enough to be deleted) and no amount of argument will even get you to consider any other options. Why don't you tell us how you really feel?
- zone411 8y agoAnd the author of this article, who was also very active in the same thread hasn't made up his mind?
- merinowool 8y agoI am only trying to understand why people feel so easy about it. I read hundreds of articles on the topic and nobody really has a clue what is going to happen. That my comments were deemed ridiculous and deleted is the symptom how crazy this whole thing is.
- rnnr 8y agoPlus it gives easy access to the government to peek at your data without any significant clause. Your data are theirs too now.
- icebraining 8y agoThat's not how it works. They don't send a guy to look at your databases.
- rnnr 8y agoSo how do they know if the response with the data a user requests, are all we've got about them, and if indeed where stored the proper way?
- icebraining 8y agoAs far as I know, you pay for an audit yourself, and then you send them the results.
- merinowool 8y agoHow difficult would be to pay auditor to close their eyes? Do you need another audit?
- icebraining 8y agoSorry, I don't know the details.
- pjc50 8y agoGenerally they don't, until something happens that reveals the contrary. Like the Cambridge Analytica fiasco.
- icebraining 8y agoHow he thinks this house of bureaucrats will be able to judge that John Does complaint has any merit? The same way judges can throw out a case without going to trial. Checking if the complaint makes sense, if it represents an actual violation as described, etc. Anyone dealing with the public knows that a huge chunk of the complaints don't even pass that bar.
- merinowool 8y agoJohn Doe says company has personal information on him and doesn't want to delete it. Shows email exchange with the company and company is stating they don't have his personal data, so there is nothing to delete. How do they judge the case has a merit? Let's say a group forms on xchan type of site and flood company and "clearing house" with such claims.
- icebraining 8y agoUnless Doe can provide any actual reason for believing they have his data, and as long as the data handling process of the company is sound, the regulator will just close the issue. At least that's my experience. Remember that the Data Protection Directive, which already allows citizens to ask companies if they have data on them and to correct incorrect data, has been around from 1995, yet there hasn't been any mobs ruining companies.
- merinowool 8y agoJohn Doe could say he had an account with company website. He can't log in because he has got shadow blocked. There would be dozens of such claims .
- taysic 8y agoWhat reason could anyone provide? (even that a company like fb still has your data) Or that a company sold it illegally? Or that random targeted ads you are seeing are the result of data from any particular company?