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Isn't VLC GPL? I thought the AppStore was not compatible with the GPL.

by patrickaljord 16y ago

mansr 16y ago
The VLC authors seem not to think so. It's their call.
- patrickaljord 16y ago
  There are tons of VLC authors, only one needs to complain. This sounds like it's going to happen sooner or later.
  - mansr 16y ago
    What is there to complain about? The source code is available for anyone to download.
    - jcl 16y ago
      Clause 6 of the GPLv2 says that you "cannot impose any further restrictions" on recipients of the software. One possible interpretation of this clause is that the App Store terms of service impose further restrictions on recipients. Thus authors of GPL software might have a basis to object to other people distributing their software through the App Store, even if full source is provided. ...at least, this was the rationale given by the FSF when they objected to GNU Go in the App Store: http://www.fsf.org/news/2010-05-app-store-compliance http://www.fsf.org/news/2010-05-app-store-compliance
      - mansr 16y ago
        Apple doesn't own any rights to the VLC application being distributed. I thus see no legal basis for them to impose any restrictions, try as they might. That clause in the GPL seems intended to cover distribution of a derived work, where the distributor owns the rights to additions they have made. Edit: IANAL
        silentOpen 16y ago
        My understanding was that to publish to the app store, the publishing developer must agree to certain GPL-incompatible terms and restrictions. Apple seems to think that their terms have been fulfilled but FSF has said that GPL and App Store terms seem to conflict. I think Apple is in the clear wrt GPL but the publishing developer may have violated its terms.
orangecat 16y ago
GPLv2 is probably ok, GPLv3 probably isn't.
forgottenpaswrd 16y ago
I think this is only applicable to Windows, MS said GPL3 is banned in Windows 7, Apple just reject what he doesn't like.
- kapranoff 16y ago
  Could you please help me find some links on the GPL3 ban in Windows 7?
  - teamonkey 16y ago
    I think he means Windows Phone 7 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/dfhyw/microsoft_developer_agreement_for_the_new_windows/ http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/dfhyw/microsoft...
jbk 16y ago
Disclaimer: VLC dev and VideoLAN Chairman Truth be told, it is a grey area. The AppStore is clearly not compatible with the GPLv3. About the GPLv2 it is more complex, because what matters is if the AppStore terms are stronger than the Application License. And noone except a judge can tell... Therefore, we release on our website, videolan.org, both the source and the binary so that the GPL spirit is kept intact. People can modify their VLC, patch it, modify it and put on their iOS devices as they wish.

Isn't VLC GPL? I thought the AppStore was not compatible with the GPL.

mansr 16y ago

The VLC authors seem not to think so. It's their call.

patrickaljord 16y ago
There are tons of VLC authors, only one needs to complain. This sounds like it's going to happen sooner or later.
- mansr 16y ago
  What is there to complain about? The source code is available for anyone to download.
  - jcl 16y ago
    Clause 6 of the GPLv2 says that you "cannot impose any further restrictions" on recipients of the software. One possible interpretation of this clause is that the App Store terms of service impose further restrictions on recipients. Thus authors of GPL software might have a basis to object to other people distributing their software through the App Store, even if full source is provided. ...at least, this was the rationale given by the FSF when they objected to GNU Go in the App Store: http://www.fsf.org/news/2010-05-app-store-compliance http://www.fsf.org/news/2010-05-app-store-compliance
    - mansr 16y ago
      Apple doesn't own any rights to the VLC application being distributed. I thus see no legal basis for them to impose any restrictions, try as they might. That clause in the GPL seems intended to cover distribution of a derived work, where the distributor owns the rights to additions they have made. Edit: IANAL
      - silentOpen 16y ago
        My understanding was that to publish to the app store, the publishing developer must agree to certain GPL-incompatible terms and restrictions. Apple seems to think that their terms have been fulfilled but FSF has said that GPL and App Store terms seem to conflict. I think Apple is in the clear wrt GPL but the publishing developer may have violated its terms.

orangecat 16y ago

GPLv2 is probably ok, GPLv3 probably isn't.

forgottenpaswrd 16y ago

I think this is only applicable to Windows, MS said GPL3 is banned in Windows 7, Apple just reject what he doesn't like.

kapranoff 16y ago
Could you please help me find some links on the GPL3 ban in Windows 7?
- teamonkey 16y ago
  I think he means Windows Phone 7 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/dfhyw/microsoft_developer_agreement_for_the_new_windows/ http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/dfhyw/microsoft...

jbk 16y ago

Disclaimer: VLC dev and VideoLAN Chairman Truth be told, it is a grey area. The AppStore is clearly not compatible with the GPLv3. About the GPLv2 it is more complex, because what matters is if the AppStore terms are stronger than the Application License. And noone except a judge can tell... Therefore, we release on our website, videolan.org, both the source and the binary so that the GPL spirit is kept intact. People can modify their VLC, patch it, modify it and put on their iOS devices as they wish.