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To clarify: I don't doubt that there is a work on it, but this particular call in demo was scripted prepared fake.

by pound 8y ago

staticassertion 8y ago
You have no evidence. Your supporting argument is a straw man about an unrelated device.
- pound 8y ago
  yeah, right. because google works on multiple assistants simultaneously
  - staticassertion 8y ago
    You have no evidence that they don't.
    - pound 8y ago
      oh, for fucks sake..
      - staticassertion 8y ago
        It's true. You're making a ton of unsupported statements. Is it so crazy that they would have two teams, or more, working on something like this? Not really, especially if you're familiar with how Google does things (how many chat apps have they had? do you think those were from one team?). You're making statements like they're facts but you haven't backed anything up at all. There is no concrete evidence supporting the theory that the demo was faked and you have multiple, hard accounts even just in this topic, that Googler's have been using this service already. So everyone is lying?
  - Whitestrake 8y ago
    Kinda like they don't work on multiple chat apps simultaneously - that would be too silly of them to be believable, right?
    - pound 8y ago
      You compare what many call AI to chat app. It's slightly different amount of work/resources needed.
  - scotty79 8y ago
    Have you ever worked in a corporation? Corporation can work simultaneously on three extremely similar projects and each team might not even know that two others exist. Not due to secrecy, just due to mess.
    - pound 8y ago
      We're talking about assistants here (you may replace 'assistant' with 'AI'). There are many-many-many teams working on different aspects of it but it's a single product at the end. It's not the same as spawning yet another chat app by another team. You may have different teams working on implementing similar feature but it still would be sitting on shoulders of/powered by the same assistant/product. And I have a general idea of what it's capable of at the moment (see above original comment). Everyone who thinks that there are multiple distinct assistants worked on at Google (not the separate features powered by THE ONE) - Apple would like to have a word with you. Yes, it just like chat apps - another team just need to start thinking of promotions.
      - jacksmith21006 8y ago
        Have you ever worked in development?
        busterarm 8y ago
        Have you ever worked in development at Google? They store billions of lines of code in a monorepo. If they don't have an organizational structure and automated testing tools to make sure they aren't having multiple teams of expensive engineers duplicate work, they might as well close up shop right now.
        pound 8y ago
        Oh no, you got me. And since I've been caught talking nonsense let me explain how I (as an outsider) got these crazy ideas: I overestimated complexity involved in creating smarts behind it, Siri and Bixby mislead me. Glad to know that google assistant and duplex are two absolutely different products and duplex is not a new feature on the same (often confused by the same words commands) foundation. And I thought that due to all the complexity to create this original assistant/AI it would be high-level product where even in messed up corporation environments no duplicate efforts would slip through (we all know how dysfunctional big companies are, or maybe just because it's Google (they have multiple chat apps) that's the way how they approach all the initiatives). Of course I was wrong and they have multiple assistants being created. It's just a matter of having one more team tasked with it. Those Apple and Samsung, looks like they're not even trying! And about submission itself - it was an absolutely real call to suspecting nothing regular person, who just happened to talk in that particular way, similar to how I try to provide all the context when doing web searches (but funny thing is that it doesn't even matter - demo was not to make a call to real restaurant, it was just showing functionality being developed, they may have even put someone on scene to take a call, but decided to insist that demo call was absolutely regular one instead) Anyway, I hope everybody is happy and not all worked up anymore, I was wrong on the internet, was put on my place and accepted that. peace
  - mrep 8y ago
    They have 2 maps products.

To clarify: I don't doubt that there is a work on it, but this particular call in demo was scripted prepared fake.

by pound 8y ago

To clarify: I don't doubt that there is a work on it, but this particular call in demo was scripted prepared fake.

staticassertion 8y ago

You have no evidence. Your supporting argument is a straw man about an unrelated device.

pound 8y ago
yeah, right. because google works on multiple assistants simultaneously
- staticassertion 8y ago
  You have no evidence that they don't.
  - pound 8y ago
    oh, for fucks sake..
    - staticassertion 8y ago
      It's true. You're making a ton of unsupported statements. Is it so crazy that they would have two teams, or more, working on something like this? Not really, especially if you're familiar with how Google does things (how many chat apps have they had? do you think those were from one team?). You're making statements like they're facts but you haven't backed anything up at all. There is no concrete evidence supporting the theory that the demo was faked and you have multiple, hard accounts even just in this topic, that Googler's have been using this service already. So everyone is lying?
- Whitestrake 8y ago
  Kinda like they don't work on multiple chat apps simultaneously - that would be too silly of them to be believable, right?
  - pound 8y ago
    You compare what many call AI to chat app. It's slightly different amount of work/resources needed.
- scotty79 8y ago
  Have you ever worked in a corporation? Corporation can work simultaneously on three extremely similar projects and each team might not even know that two others exist. Not due to secrecy, just due to mess.
  - pound 8y ago
    We're talking about assistants here (you may replace 'assistant' with 'AI'). There are many-many-many teams working on different aspects of it but it's a single product at the end. It's not the same as spawning yet another chat app by another team. You may have different teams working on implementing similar feature but it still would be sitting on shoulders of/powered by the same assistant/product. And I have a general idea of what it's capable of at the moment (see above original comment). Everyone who thinks that there are multiple distinct assistants worked on at Google (not the separate features powered by THE ONE) - Apple would like to have a word with you. Yes, it just like chat apps - another team just need to start thinking of promotions.
    - jacksmith21006 8y ago
      Have you ever worked in development?
      - busterarm 8y ago
        Have you ever worked in development at Google? They store billions of lines of code in a monorepo. If they don't have an organizational structure and automated testing tools to make sure they aren't having multiple teams of expensive engineers duplicate work, they might as well close up shop right now.
      - pound 8y ago
        Oh no, you got me. And since I've been caught talking nonsense let me explain how I (as an outsider) got these crazy ideas: I overestimated complexity involved in creating smarts behind it, Siri and Bixby mislead me. Glad to know that google assistant and duplex are two absolutely different products and duplex is not a new feature on the same (often confused by the same words commands) foundation. And I thought that due to all the complexity to create this original assistant/AI it would be high-level product where even in messed up corporation environments no duplicate efforts would slip through (we all know how dysfunctional big companies are, or maybe just because it's Google (they have multiple chat apps) that's the way how they approach all the initiatives). Of course I was wrong and they have multiple assistants being created. It's just a matter of having one more team tasked with it. Those Apple and Samsung, looks like they're not even trying! And about submission itself - it was an absolutely real call to suspecting nothing regular person, who just happened to talk in that particular way, similar to how I try to provide all the context when doing web searches (but funny thing is that it doesn't even matter - demo was not to make a call to real restaurant, it was just showing functionality being developed, they may have even put someone on scene to take a call, but decided to insist that demo call was absolutely regular one instead) Anyway, I hope everybody is happy and not all worked up anymore, I was wrong on the internet, was put on my place and accepted that. peace
- mrep 8y ago
  They have 2 maps products.