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You have a remarkable conception of what life was like a hundred years ago.

user5994461 8y ago
Well, try talking to your grandparents or beyond. It was a different time. Try to imagine. There is no google search to find out how to make children. The closest library is far away and it's not that common to go to school and learn to read. That leaves you with the opinions of the family, the neighbors and the priest, who don't know much either and offer contradictory explanations.
- krapp 8y ago
  >Try to imagine. There is no google search to find out how to make children. The closest library is far away and it's not that common to go to school and learn to read. That leaves you with the opinions of the family, the neighbors and the priest, who may not know much either and offer different tales. I have to assume you're trolling, but to be charitable, here[0] is the Wikipedia article on the history of birth control. It starts in 1800 BC with ancient Egyptian writings describing the use of acacia and honey as a spermicide. People knew where babies came from way before the internet. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control
  - mmt 8y ago
    > People knew where babies came from way before the internet. I think you missed the GP's primary point. Just because someone in the entire world had the requisite knowledge might mean nothing at all to another someone a mere few hours of travel away, let alone on the other side of the world. That's why written language was such a huge invention[1]. Then the printing press. Then the telegraph, radio, and telephone. Finally, the Internet. I'm sure I missed a few, but you get the idea. [1] A moment of silence for the Libary at Alexandria, please
    - loggedinmyphone 8y ago
      Right, just because some proto-scientist in a primitive ivory tower had observed two goats fucking, doesn't mean the common person had access to that kind of knowledge.
    - krapp 8y ago
      Sex and procreation can be found throughout recorded human history, regardless of locale. In mythology (from Zeus boning anything that moved to "be fruitful and multiply" to the Immaculate Conception and numerous creation myths besides), religious teachings regarding sex being for procreation and not mere pleasure, laws governing property rights, inheritance and royal succession, in literature, in plays and songs, in fairy tales and old wives' tales, etc. For example, here's an article on Samuel Pepys and a sexual manual from 1680 which quite clearly demonstrates that the nature of carnal knowledge was generally known at the time[0]. Along with death and mortal fear, sex and birth comprises one of the archetypal constants of the human experience. It's everywhere. It also happens to be knowledge that's necessary to continue the species, which humans have proven quite good at. I guarantee that our parents knew how babby was formed, as did their parents, as did their parents, etc. Even our hominid ancestors before the formation of language understood it, because even animals understand it at an instinctive level. [0]http://theappendix.net/posts/2013/06/this-misterie-of-fucking-a-sex-manual-from-1680 http://theappendix.net/posts/2013/06/this-misterie-of-fuckin...
      - mmt 8y ago
        I'm pretty sure neither I, nor the comment to which I was replying was referring to the knowledge (or ignorance) of the link between sex and pregnancy. At least in general. The problem for something like contraception, which is the context here, is in understanding the details. Those details are sorely lacking in plays, songs, fairy tales, and old wives' tales. > It also happens to be knowledge that's necessary to continue the species No knowledge is actually necessary, as mere ignorant performance of the act is sufficient.

Well, try talking to your grandparents or beyond. It was a different time. Try to imagine. There is no google search to find out how to make children. The closest library is far away and it's not that common to go to school and learn to read. That leaves you with the opinions of the family, the neighbors and the priest, who don't know much either and offer contradictory explanations.

krapp 8y ago
>Try to imagine. There is no google search to find out how to make children. The closest library is far away and it's not that common to go to school and learn to read. That leaves you with the opinions of the family, the neighbors and the priest, who may not know much either and offer different tales. I have to assume you're trolling, but to be charitable, here[0] is the Wikipedia article on the history of birth control. It starts in 1800 BC with ancient Egyptian writings describing the use of acacia and honey as a spermicide. People knew where babies came from way before the internet. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control
- mmt 8y ago
  > People knew where babies came from way before the internet. I think you missed the GP's primary point. Just because someone in the entire world had the requisite knowledge might mean nothing at all to another someone a mere few hours of travel away, let alone on the other side of the world. That's why written language was such a huge invention[1]. Then the printing press. Then the telegraph, radio, and telephone. Finally, the Internet. I'm sure I missed a few, but you get the idea. [1] A moment of silence for the Libary at Alexandria, please
  - loggedinmyphone 8y ago
    Right, just because some proto-scientist in a primitive ivory tower had observed two goats fucking, doesn't mean the common person had access to that kind of knowledge.
  - krapp 8y ago
    Sex and procreation can be found throughout recorded human history, regardless of locale. In mythology (from Zeus boning anything that moved to "be fruitful and multiply" to the Immaculate Conception and numerous creation myths besides), religious teachings regarding sex being for procreation and not mere pleasure, laws governing property rights, inheritance and royal succession, in literature, in plays and songs, in fairy tales and old wives' tales, etc. For example, here's an article on Samuel Pepys and a sexual manual from 1680 which quite clearly demonstrates that the nature of carnal knowledge was generally known at the time[0]. Along with death and mortal fear, sex and birth comprises one of the archetypal constants of the human experience. It's everywhere. It also happens to be knowledge that's necessary to continue the species, which humans have proven quite good at. I guarantee that our parents knew how babby was formed, as did their parents, as did their parents, etc. Even our hominid ancestors before the formation of language understood it, because even animals understand it at an instinctive level. [0]http://theappendix.net/posts/2013/06/this-misterie-of-fucking-a-sex-manual-from-1680 http://theappendix.net/posts/2013/06/this-misterie-of-fuckin...
    - mmt 8y ago
      I'm pretty sure neither I, nor the comment to which I was replying was referring to the knowledge (or ignorance) of the link between sex and pregnancy. At least in general. The problem for something like contraception, which is the context here, is in understanding the details. Those details are sorely lacking in plays, songs, fairy tales, and old wives' tales. > It also happens to be knowledge that's necessary to continue the species No knowledge is actually necessary, as mere ignorant performance of the act is sufficient.