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PuTTY is a real window, not that /subystem:console garbage that you can barely cut&paste from. Granted the console has gotten better in Windows 10, but still n

by snarfy 8y ago

PuTTY is a real window, not that /subystem:console garbage that you can barely cut&paste from. Granted the console has gotten better in Windows 10, but still not nearly as good as a real window like PuTTY gives you. I'll probably keep using PuTTY for this reason.

zaat 8y ago
Not sure what you are missing in the Windows 10 console. Granted, for their entire history Microsoft have shipped junk console, but that is simply not the case anymore.
- op00to 8y ago
  It was almost usable in Windows 10, but the latest update broke cut and paste for me.
- setquk 8y ago
  It’s still not great and it’s a lot slower than putty.
  - floatboth 8y ago
    You can use ConEmu instead of the stock console.
  - ocdtrekkie 8y ago
    cmd is pretty darn fast. PowerShell leaves a lot to be desired on the performance end though, takes a few seconds to load up the prompt. :/
    - nailer 8y ago
      Powershell 6 has a way faster start time. https://github.com/mikemaccana/powershell-profile/blob/master/README.md https://github.com/mikemaccana/powershell-profile/blob/maste...
- phil21 8y ago
  It's getting a lot better but still not what I'd call remotely polished compared to iterm2 on mac, or even terminal. Copy/paste is still somewhat janky, as well as window resizing and the like. If you move a window around now and hit enter in the console, it resizes the window vs. terminal. Just little things like that which make it much less productive than current alternatives. I basically still rank it as a "decent emergency shell" but not something I'd use for a daily workflow. I hope it gets better. My goal 2 years or so ago was to ditch securecrt so I could use a mosh client - but windows terminal was nowhere near good enough both for hi-dpi support as well as just decent 256 color support. It's come a long way since then, we'll see if the trend can continue!
  - zaat 8y ago
    I don't use mac, but up to windows 10 it was annoying moving from linux to windows, but it's honestly not anymore. Thanks for reminding me of securecrt, that's a piece of software I totally forgot about, ditched it about the same time I ditched my CRT monitor... Resizing the windows console resizes the terminal, not the windows, I mean it rearrange the text, is this not what you mean? I use windows in a VM, copy paste is near immidiate, and selection works nearly perfect (Microsoft does tend to over select spaces around words, that's an annoyance they carry all over the place). The speed of text printing in the console is fairly fast too, but I didn't benchmarked it. Haven't looked on color support at all, color themes are obvious weak point compared with any decent linux terminal.
jayofdoom 8y ago
ConEmu solves this problem really well. I use it on almost every windows machine I have.
lloydatkinson 8y ago
Are you being serious or trolling? How on earth can you consider PUTTY's only copy/paste functionality of "Copy literally the whole fucking screen to the clipboard" as better than Windows 10's actual copy/paste functionality?
- gilnims 8y ago
  Granted, for most cut/paste operations, PuTTY falls way short of the mark. However, where I like PuTTY over other SSH terminal windows is the ability to grab entire router/switch configs easily. When it comes to in-depth SSH stuff, I prefer using a *nix VM which offers up more functionality. Lastly, I posted this article because I was completely aghast when I learned Microsoft had not only installed an SSH client but also began accepting connections natively, without the user's knowledge.

by snarfy 8y ago

zaat 8y ago

Not sure what you are missing in the Windows 10 console. Granted, for their entire history Microsoft have shipped junk console, but that is simply not the case anymore.

op00to 8y ago
It was almost usable in Windows 10, but the latest update broke cut and paste for me.
setquk 8y ago
It’s still not great and it’s a lot slower than putty.
- floatboth 8y ago
  You can use ConEmu instead of the stock console.
- ocdtrekkie 8y ago
  cmd is pretty darn fast. PowerShell leaves a lot to be desired on the performance end though, takes a few seconds to load up the prompt. :/
  - nailer 8y ago
    Powershell 6 has a way faster start time. https://github.com/mikemaccana/powershell-profile/blob/master/README.md https://github.com/mikemaccana/powershell-profile/blob/maste...
phil21 8y ago
It's getting a lot better but still not what I'd call remotely polished compared to iterm2 on mac, or even terminal. Copy/paste is still somewhat janky, as well as window resizing and the like. If you move a window around now and hit enter in the console, it resizes the window vs. terminal. Just little things like that which make it much less productive than current alternatives. I basically still rank it as a "decent emergency shell" but not something I'd use for a daily workflow. I hope it gets better. My goal 2 years or so ago was to ditch securecrt so I could use a mosh client - but windows terminal was nowhere near good enough both for hi-dpi support as well as just decent 256 color support. It's come a long way since then, we'll see if the trend can continue!
- zaat 8y ago
  I don't use mac, but up to windows 10 it was annoying moving from linux to windows, but it's honestly not anymore. Thanks for reminding me of securecrt, that's a piece of software I totally forgot about, ditched it about the same time I ditched my CRT monitor... Resizing the windows console resizes the terminal, not the windows, I mean it rearrange the text, is this not what you mean? I use windows in a VM, copy paste is near immidiate, and selection works nearly perfect (Microsoft does tend to over select spaces around words, that's an annoyance they carry all over the place). The speed of text printing in the console is fairly fast too, but I didn't benchmarked it. Haven't looked on color support at all, color themes are obvious weak point compared with any decent linux terminal.

jayofdoom 8y ago

ConEmu solves this problem really well. I use it on almost every windows machine I have.

lloydatkinson 8y ago

Are you being serious or trolling? How on earth can you consider PUTTY's only copy/paste functionality of "Copy literally the whole fucking screen to the clipboard" as better than Windows 10's actual copy/paste functionality?

gilnims 8y ago
Granted, for most cut/paste operations, PuTTY falls way short of the mark. However, where I like PuTTY over other SSH terminal windows is the ability to grab entire router/switch configs easily. When it comes to in-depth SSH stuff, I prefer using a *nix VM which offers up more functionality. Lastly, I posted this article because I was completely aghast when I learned Microsoft had not only installed an SSH client but also began accepting connections natively, without the user's knowledge.