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Why do people hold up the NY Times as such a great newspaper? There's been like 8 stories from them on here today, and it's the same repeated drivel they trot

Why do people hold up the NY Times as such a great newspaper? There's been like 8 stories from them on here today, and it's the same repeated drivel they trot out every two or three weeks, on the same topics, and the same low-energy arguments. My flag button is wearing out.

jonknee 8y ago
The NYT isn't a tech focused newspaper so the types of stories you see here are not representative of what gives them such a glowing reputation. This is an article out of their weekly magazine, it's not supposed to be hard news.
soared 8y ago
There is probably an argument somewhere that a lack of real news is actually good news - there isn't a major crisis or surprising events to report on.
WhompingWindows 8y ago
Do you care to elaborate on how specifically they are not great, how they make drivel? Yours is a low-energy argument in itself, no specifics, just negativity.
jadedhacker 8y ago
The NYT's audience model is to make white collar slightly liberal managerial class and workers that aspire to the managerial class feel smart. These are the people that decide what a "glowing reputation" is, hence NYT gets one. They then take this reputation they built up and pivot it into foreign policy propaganda, often based on official lies. Of course, NYT also employs actual and good reporters. However, to a certain degree, they are swimming against the stream and their prestige enhances the prestige of the institution. Just look at how James Risen's stories on Stellar Wind were killed by calls from the White House.
reaperducer 8y ago
>Why do people hold up the NY Times as such a great newspaper? Because it's been in business for 167 years, and in that time has changed the course of history and our understanding of the world around us multiple times. What have you done today?
- megaman22 8y ago
  > What have you done today? Considerably more real work than I usually do... A full third of the front page as I look right now is nytimes, bloomberg, wsj, theguardian, and other fairly junk mainstream news sites. Must be a slow day for the bloggers and people actually writing about technology.

jonknee 8y ago

The NYT isn't a tech focused newspaper so the types of stories you see here are not representative of what gives them such a glowing reputation. This is an article out of their weekly magazine, it's not supposed to be hard news.

soared 8y ago

There is probably an argument somewhere that a lack of real news is actually good news - there isn't a major crisis or surprising events to report on.

WhompingWindows 8y ago

Do you care to elaborate on how specifically they are not great, how they make drivel? Yours is a low-energy argument in itself, no specifics, just negativity.

jadedhacker 8y ago

The NYT's audience model is to make white collar slightly liberal managerial class and workers that aspire to the managerial class feel smart. These are the people that decide what a "glowing reputation" is, hence NYT gets one. They then take this reputation they built up and pivot it into foreign policy propaganda, often based on official lies. Of course, NYT also employs actual and good reporters. However, to a certain degree, they are swimming against the stream and their prestige enhances the prestige of the institution. Just look at how James Risen's stories on Stellar Wind were killed by calls from the White House.

reaperducer 8y ago

>Why do people hold up the NY Times as such a great newspaper? Because it's been in business for 167 years, and in that time has changed the course of history and our understanding of the world around us multiple times. What have you done today?

megaman22 8y ago
> What have you done today? Considerably more real work than I usually do... A full third of the front page as I look right now is nytimes, bloomberg, wsj, theguardian, and other fairly junk mainstream news sites. Must be a slow day for the bloggers and people actually writing about technology.