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White Day? You mean March 14th?

Reedx 8y ago
I think he's referring to the "Day of Absence" where white people were not supposed to be on campus. A white progressive professor dared go to work that day and they tried to destroy him for it. It's also a big problem that free speech is increasingly under attack at universities. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/opinion/when-the-left-turns-on-its-own.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/opinion/when-the-left-tur...
- s73v3r_ 8y ago
  Free speech is not at all under attack at universities. What's happening is that shitty people are no longer able to say shitty things without being called out on it. That's what they're upset about.
  - Reedx 8y ago
    Read about what happened with Bret Weinstein (the aforementioned professor). Consider why so many comedians (e.g., Jerry Seinfeld) are no longer performing at colleges. They say it's become unbearable. That's a big clue that free speech is not welcome. Look at how guest lecturers and ideas are getting shut down. University used to be the bastion of free speech and ideas, but that is increasingly under threat. Just watch what happened at this lecture at Queen's University to see an example how bad it's getting: https://youtu.be/MwdYpMS8s28?t=9m44s https://youtu.be/MwdYpMS8s28?t=9m44s Distinguished professors trying to have a well reasoned and peaceful discussion with students. And that wasn't just disrupted, the doors were barricaded and people were pounding on the windows (breaking at least one) throughout the remainder of the event. Outside it was even yelled "Lock em in and burn it down". Seriously, watch the whole thing (followed by footage of what happened outside) and I think you'll be taken aback. These are not cases of shitty things being called out, it goes way beyond that.
    - s73v3r_ 8y ago
      Again, I completely disagree. I see someone who is being called out for shitty things they're saying. I'm not seeing free speech shut down at all; on the contrary, I see a lot of other people using their free speech to express their disagreement. And the person in the video, Jordan Peterson, is someone who expresses views that basically say that a lot of people don't deserve to have freedom. He claims that women should not be able to leave abusive marriages. He claims that gay marriage should not be legal at all. He's used a lot of pseudoscience to make it appear as if he's being rational, when really all he's doing is expressing disdain and scorn for lots of marginalized groups. And I can't be upset with those groups for finally getting tired of him disparaging them, and telling him to shove it.
  - refurb 8y ago
    Your first sentence and last two are contradictory.
    - s73v3r_ 8y ago
      No, they absolutely are not. One person using their free speech to call out another person for something shitty they said is not "attacking" their free speech. It's exercising free speech. The only way you can believe those sentences are contradictory is if you believe that only some people have free speech, and everyone else just has to sit there and listen to it.
  - hnaccy 8y ago
    White people wanting to go to their college campus are being "shitty people"?
    - s73v3r_ 8y ago
      That is nowhere near what's happening. Trying to reduce it to that is extremely uncivil.
      - hnaccy 8y ago
        I don't understand. Students asked for white people to not come to the college for a day, a white professor disagreed with this, the students called for him to be fired. Pressuring people of a certain race to stay home seems wrong, and I don't think the professor is shitty for standing up to it.
  - darepublic 8y ago
    How is disallowing a racial group from going to school without being screamed at and harassed fall under 'shitty people are no longer able to say shitty things without being called out on it'?

I think he's referring to the "Day of Absence" where white people were not supposed to be on campus. A white progressive professor dared go to work that day and they tried to destroy him for it. It's also a big problem that free speech is increasingly under attack at universities. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/opinion/when-the-left-turns-on-its-own.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/opinion/when-the-left-tur...

s73v3r_ 8y ago
Free speech is not at all under attack at universities. What's happening is that shitty people are no longer able to say shitty things without being called out on it. That's what they're upset about.
- Reedx 8y ago
  Read about what happened with Bret Weinstein (the aforementioned professor). Consider why so many comedians (e.g., Jerry Seinfeld) are no longer performing at colleges. They say it's become unbearable. That's a big clue that free speech is not welcome. Look at how guest lecturers and ideas are getting shut down. University used to be the bastion of free speech and ideas, but that is increasingly under threat. Just watch what happened at this lecture at Queen's University to see an example how bad it's getting: https://youtu.be/MwdYpMS8s28?t=9m44s https://youtu.be/MwdYpMS8s28?t=9m44s Distinguished professors trying to have a well reasoned and peaceful discussion with students. And that wasn't just disrupted, the doors were barricaded and people were pounding on the windows (breaking at least one) throughout the remainder of the event. Outside it was even yelled "Lock em in and burn it down". Seriously, watch the whole thing (followed by footage of what happened outside) and I think you'll be taken aback. These are not cases of shitty things being called out, it goes way beyond that.
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    Again, I completely disagree. I see someone who is being called out for shitty things they're saying. I'm not seeing free speech shut down at all; on the contrary, I see a lot of other people using their free speech to express their disagreement. And the person in the video, Jordan Peterson, is someone who expresses views that basically say that a lot of people don't deserve to have freedom. He claims that women should not be able to leave abusive marriages. He claims that gay marriage should not be legal at all. He's used a lot of pseudoscience to make it appear as if he's being rational, when really all he's doing is expressing disdain and scorn for lots of marginalized groups. And I can't be upset with those groups for finally getting tired of him disparaging them, and telling him to shove it.
- refurb 8y ago
  Your first sentence and last two are contradictory.
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    No, they absolutely are not. One person using their free speech to call out another person for something shitty they said is not "attacking" their free speech. It's exercising free speech. The only way you can believe those sentences are contradictory is if you believe that only some people have free speech, and everyone else just has to sit there and listen to it.
- hnaccy 8y ago
  White people wanting to go to their college campus are being "shitty people"?
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    That is nowhere near what's happening. Trying to reduce it to that is extremely uncivil.
    - hnaccy 8y ago
      I don't understand. Students asked for white people to not come to the college for a day, a white professor disagreed with this, the students called for him to be fired. Pressuring people of a certain race to stay home seems wrong, and I don't think the professor is shitty for standing up to it.
- darepublic 8y ago
  How is disallowing a racial group from going to school without being screamed at and harassed fall under 'shitty people are no longer able to say shitty things without being called out on it'?