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I've been a Google Play Music subscriber from the beginning, which means I've enjoyed the grandfathered $7.99 price. That has also extended to YouTube Red. How

I've been a Google Play Music subscriber from the beginning, which means I've enjoyed the grandfathered $7.99 price. That has also extended to YouTube Red. However, this announcement muddies the waters a bit. > If you are a subscriber to Google Play Music, good news, you get a YouTube Music Premium membership as part of your subscription each month. Cool, I guess, except I don't go to YouTube for Music. I really am incredibly interested in YouTube Red. I mean YouTube Premium, I guess. > To extend the features of YouTube Music Premium beyond the music app, we’re soon introducing YouTube Premium, the new name for our YouTube Red subscription service. [describes YouTube Red] If you’re already a YouTube Red (soon to be YouTube Premium) member, don’t worry you’ll still enjoy your current price. So, if you have Google Play Music, do you get YouTube Premium?

mrbill 8y ago
nope, you have to pay $12 to continue having Red. :(
- dannyw 8y ago
  This is extremely disappointing. I’m sure the amount of $7.99 GPM early adopters is minuscule to their metrics, but the cost of goodwill is far higher.
  - bestnameever 8y ago
    > If you’re already a YouTube Red (soon to be YouTube Premium) member I subscribe to google play music but if I look at my youtube red status is says member. So I assume, I will continue to enjoy it at no extra cost. I chatted with google and they said the same but the wording is really confusing...so who knows.
    - amanzi 8y ago
      YouTube Red is the killer feature that keeps me with GPM. If I lose YouTube Red, I'd probably switch back to Spotify.
    - jordonwii 8y ago
      > > If you’re already a YouTube Red (soon to be YouTube Premium) member > I subscribe to google play music but if I look at my youtube red status is says member. So I assume, I will continue to enjoy it at no extra cost. I chatted with google and they said the same but the wording is really confusing...so who knows. That's reflecting the current pricing structure, no? Currently, buying play music also gets you read. From the article, it looks like you no longer get Red (renamed Premium), you instead only get YT Music.
      - dannyw 8y ago
        But buying YouTube Red gets you GPM and will get you YT Premium. Buying GPM which gets you YTR won’t get you premium? It’s the same price!!
        jkaplowitz 8y ago
        Not the same price for those of us who were grandfathered into the $7.99/month GPM intro price. Hence the problem. Otherwise a switch to YTR before May 22 would remove the uncertainty. Also, I subscribed when living in the US and now live in Canada. I'm wondering if I can somehow retain the grandfathered price or an equivalent discount whenever I switch my Google account to know that I live in Canada now. Somehow I'm guessing not... $9.99 Canadian is actually less than $7.99 US most of the time, but YTR isn't available on this side of the border, so I can't lock that in. (YT Premium will be here, the announcement says, at some unspecified later date.) Canada seems to have the same $7.99 grandfathering deal (but in Canadian dollars) for its early subscribers. Time to ask Google support what they can do, I guess...
      - jscheel 8y ago
        Yeah, I’m super confused. Does this mean I will start getting ads in YouTube because I only have the Google Play Music subscription? If so, they’ve just removed the one reason I haven’t switched to Spotify.
  - nerdponx 8y ago
    Considering that Google has been doing this kind of stuff for years now, it's pretty clear that goodwill does not cost enough to matter.
- bestnameever 8y ago
  Google support told me the opposite. Why does everything need to be so confusing?
  - nerdponx 8y ago
    Because Google absolutely does not care about you as a consumer.
    - icebraining 8y ago
      It's not clear how this benefits their advertisers either, though. It just seems like poor planning.
  - Mindwipe 8y ago
    Google Support are correct, and that is what the article says. The poster you're replying to is simply wrong.
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guu 8y ago
It sounds like previous subscribers are grandfathered in: “When YouTube Premium launches, YouTube Red members will automatically receive access at their current price. In countries where YouTube Red is currently available, a new member can also secure this price ($9.99 in the U.S.) by joining now at youtube.com/red.” I agree it’s very confusing. https://youtube.googleblog.com/2018/05/introducing-youtube-premium.html https://youtube.googleblog.com/2018/05/introducing-youtube-p...

mrbill 8y ago

nope, you have to pay $12 to continue having Red. :(

dannyw 8y ago
This is extremely disappointing. I’m sure the amount of $7.99 GPM early adopters is minuscule to their metrics, but the cost of goodwill is far higher.
- bestnameever 8y ago
  > If you’re already a YouTube Red (soon to be YouTube Premium) member I subscribe to google play music but if I look at my youtube red status is says member. So I assume, I will continue to enjoy it at no extra cost. I chatted with google and they said the same but the wording is really confusing...so who knows.
  - amanzi 8y ago
    YouTube Red is the killer feature that keeps me with GPM. If I lose YouTube Red, I'd probably switch back to Spotify.
  - jordonwii 8y ago
    > > If you’re already a YouTube Red (soon to be YouTube Premium) member > I subscribe to google play music but if I look at my youtube red status is says member. So I assume, I will continue to enjoy it at no extra cost. I chatted with google and they said the same but the wording is really confusing...so who knows. That's reflecting the current pricing structure, no? Currently, buying play music also gets you read. From the article, it looks like you no longer get Red (renamed Premium), you instead only get YT Music.
    - dannyw 8y ago
      But buying YouTube Red gets you GPM and will get you YT Premium. Buying GPM which gets you YTR won’t get you premium? It’s the same price!!
      - jkaplowitz 8y ago
        Not the same price for those of us who were grandfathered into the $7.99/month GPM intro price. Hence the problem. Otherwise a switch to YTR before May 22 would remove the uncertainty. Also, I subscribed when living in the US and now live in Canada. I'm wondering if I can somehow retain the grandfathered price or an equivalent discount whenever I switch my Google account to know that I live in Canada now. Somehow I'm guessing not... $9.99 Canadian is actually less than $7.99 US most of the time, but YTR isn't available on this side of the border, so I can't lock that in. (YT Premium will be here, the announcement says, at some unspecified later date.) Canada seems to have the same $7.99 grandfathering deal (but in Canadian dollars) for its early subscribers. Time to ask Google support what they can do, I guess...
    - jscheel 8y ago
      Yeah, I’m super confused. Does this mean I will start getting ads in YouTube because I only have the Google Play Music subscription? If so, they’ve just removed the one reason I haven’t switched to Spotify.
- nerdponx 8y ago
  Considering that Google has been doing this kind of stuff for years now, it's pretty clear that goodwill does not cost enough to matter.
bestnameever 8y ago
Google support told me the opposite. Why does everything need to be so confusing?
- nerdponx 8y ago
  Because Google absolutely does not care about you as a consumer.
  - icebraining 8y ago
    It's not clear how this benefits their advertisers either, though. It just seems like poor planning.
- Mindwipe 8y ago
  Google Support are correct, and that is what the article says. The poster you're replying to is simply wrong.
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guu 8y ago

It sounds like previous subscribers are grandfathered in: “When YouTube Premium launches, YouTube Red members will automatically receive access at their current price. In countries where YouTube Red is currently available, a new member can also secure this price ($9.99 in the U.S.) by joining now at youtube.com/red.” I agree it’s very confusing. https://youtube.googleblog.com/2018/05/introducing-youtube-premium.html https://youtube.googleblog.com/2018/05/introducing-youtube-p...