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I'm glad you enjoy those wonderful Chicago winters, DHH.

by sutro 19y ago

tptacek 19y ago
I'm glad you enjoy paying $2000 a month for a 600sqft San Francisco studio, sutro.
- philippp 19y ago
  Are you just trolling now? For the record, my roommate and I are paying $1,800 for a 1400 sq foot two bedroom. And that's a lot, when I compare with my friends who have lived here for more than a year.
jrockway 19y ago
Winter in Chicago isn't that bad. Do you think "wow, this is great weather" every day during the winter? No. But the spring, summer, and fall is very enjoyable. The problem with Chicago is that there are no other hackers around (all the tech people work for banks, and end up being as interesting as you'd imagine), and there are no 24-hour coffee shops, at least not near me. Chicago is a good place to be if you want to be alone. I guess it's "a big city" but it sure doesn't feel like it at times.
- tptacek 19y ago
  Not at all true! The difference between the Chicago hacker scene and the San Francisco hacker scene is, you have to go out of your way to find the Chicago hacker scene, and you can't avoid the San Francisco hacker scene. I've worked for two startups here, both successful, and know of plenty more. And of course, "Feedburner Feedburner Feedburner 37Signals". Should there be a monthly meetup for people like us in Chicago? Absolutely. I set one up for security people (http://www.sockpuppet.org/chisec http://www.sockpuppet.org/chisec) and it's been pretty successful --- at least, if its spinoff (http://www.citysec.org http://www.citysec.org) is to be believed. If 40 people will show up each month to swap drinks for infosec stories, surely more would show up to talk about Social Networking for Pets.
- sabat 19y ago
  "Winter in Chicago isn't that bad." In the words of 37signals -- and Dr. Phil -- get real. Winter is hell in Chicago, summer is a pressure cooker, and fall and spring are tolerable for a few days. "Isn't that bad" is relative. Weather in the Bay Area is amazingly good. One of three mediterranean climates in the world. There is no comparison.
  - jrockway 19y ago
    > In the words of 37signals -- and Dr. Phil -- get real. Winter is hell in Chicago, summer is a pressure cooker, and fall and spring are tolerable for a few days. You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree. It's just the weather; if that's the defining feature of your life, try to do something more interesting :)
adrianh 19y ago
Chicago winters make you appreciate the summers, just as the smaller Chicago Web-dev scene makes you appreciate the startup folks here, just as the lack of web-2.0-echo-chamber-ness makes you pay more attention to Normal People who don't know what Twitter is. Balance is good!

I'm glad you enjoy those wonderful Chicago winters, DHH.

by sutro 19y ago

I'm glad you enjoy those wonderful Chicago winters, DHH.

tptacek 19y ago

I'm glad you enjoy paying $2000 a month for a 600sqft San Francisco studio, sutro.

philippp 19y ago
Are you just trolling now? For the record, my roommate and I are paying $1,800 for a 1400 sq foot two bedroom. And that's a lot, when I compare with my friends who have lived here for more than a year.

jrockway 19y ago

Winter in Chicago isn't that bad. Do you think "wow, this is great weather" every day during the winter? No. But the spring, summer, and fall is very enjoyable. The problem with Chicago is that there are no other hackers around (all the tech people work for banks, and end up being as interesting as you'd imagine), and there are no 24-hour coffee shops, at least not near me. Chicago is a good place to be if you want to be alone. I guess it's "a big city" but it sure doesn't feel like it at times.

tptacek 19y ago
Not at all true! The difference between the Chicago hacker scene and the San Francisco hacker scene is, you have to go out of your way to find the Chicago hacker scene, and you can't avoid the San Francisco hacker scene. I've worked for two startups here, both successful, and know of plenty more. And of course, "Feedburner Feedburner Feedburner 37Signals". Should there be a monthly meetup for people like us in Chicago? Absolutely. I set one up for security people (http://www.sockpuppet.org/chisec http://www.sockpuppet.org/chisec) and it's been pretty successful --- at least, if its spinoff (http://www.citysec.org http://www.citysec.org) is to be believed. If 40 people will show up each month to swap drinks for infosec stories, surely more would show up to talk about Social Networking for Pets.
sabat 19y ago
"Winter in Chicago isn't that bad." In the words of 37signals -- and Dr. Phil -- get real. Winter is hell in Chicago, summer is a pressure cooker, and fall and spring are tolerable for a few days. "Isn't that bad" is relative. Weather in the Bay Area is amazingly good. One of three mediterranean climates in the world. There is no comparison.
- jrockway 19y ago
  > In the words of 37signals -- and Dr. Phil -- get real. Winter is hell in Chicago, summer is a pressure cooker, and fall and spring are tolerable for a few days. You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree. It's just the weather; if that's the defining feature of your life, try to do something more interesting :)

adrianh 19y ago

Chicago winters make you appreciate the summers, just as the smaller Chicago Web-dev scene makes you appreciate the startup folks here, just as the lack of web-2.0-echo-chamber-ness makes you pay more attention to Normal People who don't know what Twitter is. Balance is good!