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Are you saying it's good to hire people who lie to get through the interview? What would they lie about on the job? This kind of thing can end badly. I worked

Are you saying it's good to hire people who lie to get through the interview? What would they lie about on the job? This kind of thing can end badly. I worked with a guy who was kicked out of two companies (first for fiddling expenses and second for faking his CV on a grand scale) and ended up sentenced to 64 months in prison for fraud. [0] He fooled a lot of very smart people along the way. I still don't fully understand why he did it--he was a smart guy and didn't need to cut corners to be very successful. [0] http://fraudtalk.blogspot.com/2009/11/former-california-software-exec.html http://fraudtalk.blogspot.com/2009/11/former-california-soft...

adamzk 8y ago
Yeah but he did it to get the job not to defraud anyone. That's dedication not deceit. He wasn't pretending to be anybody else. He was probably rejected from a million jobs before this one despite presumably being extremely well prepared and qualified. So other options are there? Fudge the references, perform well and ask for forgiveness later. I say hire him. Not everybody has the luxury of a fancy education and the connections that come with it. Not everybody comes from an environment where they have the privilege of interaction with others in the field. Some of us come from nothing and educate ourselves independently. It's a shame that its nearly impossible to get one's foot in the door despite having ostensibly worked harder than many of those who were given a fair shot. Check your privilege.
- hodgesrm 8y ago
  I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. For me honesty ranks way higher up the scale for hiring than technical credentials. You can teach people technical skills. Good character not so much. p.s. I don't have a CS degree and finished my BA/History going to extension school part-time while serving in the US military. p.p.s, If you have a less-than-honorable discharge you'll also have a tough time getting through the interview process with me.

adamzk 8y ago

Yeah but he did it to get the job not to defraud anyone. That's dedication not deceit. He wasn't pretending to be anybody else. He was probably rejected from a million jobs before this one despite presumably being extremely well prepared and qualified. So other options are there? Fudge the references, perform well and ask for forgiveness later. I say hire him. Not everybody has the luxury of a fancy education and the connections that come with it. Not everybody comes from an environment where they have the privilege of interaction with others in the field. Some of us come from nothing and educate ourselves independently. It's a shame that its nearly impossible to get one's foot in the door despite having ostensibly worked harder than many of those who were given a fair shot. Check your privilege.

hodgesrm 8y ago
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. For me honesty ranks way higher up the scale for hiring than technical credentials. You can teach people technical skills. Good character not so much. p.s. I don't have a CS degree and finished my BA/History going to extension school part-time while serving in the US military. p.p.s, If you have a less-than-honorable discharge you'll also have a tough time getting through the interview process with me.