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> However, the maliciousness that the EU is proposing to go after any company, whether they operate in the EU or not, is going to break things in ways they have

> However, the maliciousness that the EU is proposing to go after any company, whether they operate in the EU or not, is going to break things in ways they have not thought of. Hmm, so you're saying the US doesn't do anything like this? DCMA, FBAR & FATCA, etc, etc. The only reason Americans are complaining about this one is that they're the ones having to comply with a very sane law. Or because they haven't read it, and have no fucking clue how it or privacy works. > are EU citizens. But only those that live in the US with a social security number. [...] So my question is what happens if someone files a GDPR issue with my company? Read the GDPR. Only companies outside the EU that specifically go after EU residents are in scope. It has nothing to do with e.g. EU nationals residing abroad. So enough of this "woe is us" bollocks. It happens every post about GDPR, and I'm sick of the FUD tactics.

MR4D 8y ago
Not a FUD tactic on my part, so please don't put "woe is me" on me. For what it's worth, FATCA, DCMA , et al really suck too, and I think those have terrible unintended consequences. But this post was about GDPR because that's what the topic of the oringinal post is. And no, I'm not complaining about it - I'm saying it's poorly implemented. And before you go off on Americans having to comply with a law OUTSIDE OUR JURISDICTION, how about we hold all of our crappy laws over your head. And fine you 4% of revenues for one of our bullshit laws? You wouldn't like it either, WHICH IS MY POINT - it's a poorly implemented law. My company has a (damn good) privacy policy. We take privacy very seriously. But fuck all if some other country wants to put a regulation on MY interaction with someone from their country in my hometown. (And I have the same opinion if the US wants to regulate some American doing something in another country - the US should fuck-off then as well). You seem super supportive of this law, but what will your position be when China "improves" their Social Credit system to require anybody in any country who deals with a Chinese national to report their information/conversation/etc to the Chinese govt within 24 hours of gathering the data? Will you support that because the Chinese have the noble goal of social stability? Or will you decide that in this particular case, and because you don't like their extra-territorial law, that "they can't do it." ? I have no intention of reading the GDPR because IT'S NOT MY LAW ! Does that not resonate with you? I don't expect you to read the DMCA, FATCA, Patriot Act, etc, so why do you expect me to read yours? It has nothing to do with me (except for those unintended consequences that I'm trying to explain above).
- Semirhage 8y ago
  For what it's worth, FATCA, DCMA , et al really suck too, and I think those have terrible unintended consequences. But this post was about GDPR because that's what the topic of the oringinal post is. And before you go off on Americans having to comply with a law OUTSIDE OUR JURISDICTION, how about we hold all of our crappy laws over your head. And fine you 4% of revenues for one of our bullshit laws? Kind of hard to reconcile those two positions, given that the former is just a perfect example of the latter.
  - MR4D 8y ago
    You need to reread my post. Those two comments are perfectly in line. My point is that GDPR sucks (as does DMCA, etc). Extra-territorial laws have wide ranging unintended consequences, and hence should be avoided. That's why we have treaties.

MR4D 8y ago

Not a FUD tactic on my part, so please don't put "woe is me" on me. For what it's worth, FATCA, DCMA , et al really suck too, and I think those have terrible unintended consequences. But this post was about GDPR because that's what the topic of the oringinal post is. And no, I'm not complaining about it - I'm saying it's poorly implemented. And before you go off on Americans having to comply with a law OUTSIDE OUR JURISDICTION, how about we hold all of our crappy laws over your head. And fine you 4% of revenues for one of our bullshit laws? You wouldn't like it either, WHICH IS MY POINT - it's a poorly implemented law. My company has a (damn good) privacy policy. We take privacy very seriously. But fuck all if some other country wants to put a regulation on MY interaction with someone from their country in my hometown. (And I have the same opinion if the US wants to regulate some American doing something in another country - the US should fuck-off then as well). You seem super supportive of this law, but what will your position be when China "improves" their Social Credit system to require anybody in any country who deals with a Chinese national to report their information/conversation/etc to the Chinese govt within 24 hours of gathering the data? Will you support that because the Chinese have the noble goal of social stability? Or will you decide that in this particular case, and because you don't like their extra-territorial law, that "they can't do it." ? I have no intention of reading the GDPR because IT'S NOT MY LAW ! Does that not resonate with you? I don't expect you to read the DMCA, FATCA, Patriot Act, etc, so why do you expect me to read yours? It has nothing to do with me (except for those unintended consequences that I'm trying to explain above).

Semirhage 8y ago
For what it's worth, FATCA, DCMA , et al really suck too, and I think those have terrible unintended consequences. But this post was about GDPR because that's what the topic of the oringinal post is. And before you go off on Americans having to comply with a law OUTSIDE OUR JURISDICTION, how about we hold all of our crappy laws over your head. And fine you 4% of revenues for one of our bullshit laws? Kind of hard to reconcile those two positions, given that the former is just a perfect example of the latter.
- MR4D 8y ago
  You need to reread my post. Those two comments are perfectly in line. My point is that GDPR sucks (as does DMCA, etc). Extra-territorial laws have wide ranging unintended consequences, and hence should be avoided. That's why we have treaties.