"This, at least, is IMO not a valid criticism. I make beer, and two easy examples are cloves & banana." Agreed. In fact, I will go further and support the not

"This, at least, is IMO not a valid criticism. I make beer, and two easy examples are cloves & banana." Agreed. In fact, I will go further and support the notion that red wines can give you "brick" and "chalk" tastes, etc., even though I have never actually tasted brick.