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I've seen a handful of hipster-ethical-natural wine shops pop up around the SF Bay. The wine doesn't seem to be inherently better, but it does seem to start at

• sincerely 8y ago
  Are you being purposefully dense? The reason "ethical" or "natural" wine would be more expensive isn't because it would taste better , but because it costs more to produce (or present, in the case of "hipster") in a specific way that's appealing to the consumer.
  • Kalium 8y ago
    Oh, you're absolutely right! Of course more ethical or natural wine costs more to produce and present appealingly. You're absolutely, completely, 100% correct on every point. I might be a bit skeptical that it costs $3-4 a glass more, however. I wonder if it's not at least somewhat about having an aspirational label that can be applied to justify a significant upcharge.
    • sincerely 8y ago
      Oh, I think I agree with you then, they're probably milking the label for all it's worth :P
    • dx034 8y ago
      Not sure about wine but in other areas, organic agriculture can halve the yield (more for meat). Could imagine the same for grapes. That plus more expensive handling after harvest (often simple due to lower scale) can easily triple the price.