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Why? They'd eventually deceive the new customers just to make the sale, even going so far to fabricate facts and people just to do it. That's not the type of

Why? They'd eventually deceive the new customers just to make the sale, even going so far to fabricate facts and people just to do it. That's not the type of person you want bringing on new accounts at your company.

lkrubner 8y ago
If they engage in outright fraud, then they are criminals, and they've probably been criminals in the past. That's why I emphasized the one thing to really check for is whether they are hiding a criminal past. At one point, when I was running my own business, I worked with an alcoholic who was a good salesman. I knew that he could be toxic, so I structured an agreement such that I kept some distance between him and my company. I basically just offered him a generous finders fee. I told him if he could bring in business, I would give him a percentage. We got at least one big contract because of him. I'm not saying that every company can or should work with such people. Every company is different. But if you know the circumstances of your company, and you think you can get useful work out of someone who has some known problems, then it is possible to structure a deal such that your company wins.
- bduerst 8y ago
  >If they engage in outright fraud, then they are criminals, and they've probably been criminals in the past. You're assuming that they were caught and convicted. Displaying this pattern of behavior w/o a criminal history doesn't mean they won't continue said behavior in the job. It's a terrible idea to have hired this candidate and I'm not entirely certain what your motivation is for arguing otherwise.
- salvar 8y ago
  > If they engage in outright fraud, then they are criminals, and they've probably been criminals in the past. That's an enormous assumption.
organsnyder 8y ago
I'd hate to work as an engineer (or other delivery role) on a contract sold by this guy.

lkrubner 8y ago

If they engage in outright fraud, then they are criminals, and they've probably been criminals in the past. That's why I emphasized the one thing to really check for is whether they are hiding a criminal past. At one point, when I was running my own business, I worked with an alcoholic who was a good salesman. I knew that he could be toxic, so I structured an agreement such that I kept some distance between him and my company. I basically just offered him a generous finders fee. I told him if he could bring in business, I would give him a percentage. We got at least one big contract because of him. I'm not saying that every company can or should work with such people. Every company is different. But if you know the circumstances of your company, and you think you can get useful work out of someone who has some known problems, then it is possible to structure a deal such that your company wins.

bduerst 8y ago
>If they engage in outright fraud, then they are criminals, and they've probably been criminals in the past. You're assuming that they were caught and convicted. Displaying this pattern of behavior w/o a criminal history doesn't mean they won't continue said behavior in the job. It's a terrible idea to have hired this candidate and I'm not entirely certain what your motivation is for arguing otherwise.
salvar 8y ago
> If they engage in outright fraud, then they are criminals, and they've probably been criminals in the past. That's an enormous assumption.

organsnyder 8y ago

I'd hate to work as an engineer (or other delivery role) on a contract sold by this guy.