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You'll never be able to trust a candidate who lies. Blatantly lying to a potential employer will never work out well in the long run. Just don't do it. Progra

You'll never be able to trust a candidate who lies. Blatantly lying to a potential employer will never work out well in the long run. Just don't do it. Programmers are lucky in that they can take code they've written, and say "see, here's my proof that I can do the job".Other types of jobs (like sales), however, are reputation based, and you damn well better make sure the opinion of the person who is vouching for your candidate is legitimate.

maxxxxx 8y ago
"You'll never be able to trust a candidate who lies." This also goes the other way. I have had companies lie to me about salary structure or working conditions and it definitely hurt my loyalty when I found out that I had been lied to.
- itronitron 8y ago
  >> companies lie to me about salary structure or working conditions That is the rule rather than the exception unfortunately. What recruiters need to watch out for is the candidate (like the one described) that can't control their lies as they can do lasting long-term damage. Everyone else is just tuning their risk-reward calculation.
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- vkou 8y ago
  You're supposed to lie in socially acceptable ways. Preferably ones where both parties know the other is lying. Your boss lies to you that he can't give you a raise, you lie to the hiring manager that you won't take the job without a 10% bump in pay, your VP lies that the merger won't affect headcount, etc.
  - Retra 8y ago
    None of those are socially acceptable. But I dunno, maybe you live in a shit place.
- jackconnor 8y ago
  As soon as an employer starts lying or doing anything remotely wacky with a paycheck, you gotta bounce asap. Happened to me several times, and I find lying companies always keep lying, and honest companies rarely start. That only gets worse, never better, so either learn to live with it or get the hell out of Dodge.
lsaferite 8y ago
> Programmers are lucky in that they can take code they've written, and say "see, here's my proof that I can do the job" Most of the code I write ss closed source and owned by my employer. I never get to show off the cool things I've done. As for doing side projects to show potential employers, I have very little 'personal' time on any given day between work and family life. I no longer code for fun. Now I do chores, read, and maybe sleep a little.

maxxxxx 8y ago

"You'll never be able to trust a candidate who lies." This also goes the other way. I have had companies lie to me about salary structure or working conditions and it definitely hurt my loyalty when I found out that I had been lied to.

itronitron 8y ago
>> companies lie to me about salary structure or working conditions That is the rule rather than the exception unfortunately. What recruiters need to watch out for is the candidate (like the one described) that can't control their lies as they can do lasting long-term damage. Everyone else is just tuning their risk-reward calculation.
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vkou 8y ago
You're supposed to lie in socially acceptable ways. Preferably ones where both parties know the other is lying. Your boss lies to you that he can't give you a raise, you lie to the hiring manager that you won't take the job without a 10% bump in pay, your VP lies that the merger won't affect headcount, etc.
- Retra 8y ago
  None of those are socially acceptable. But I dunno, maybe you live in a shit place.
jackconnor 8y ago
As soon as an employer starts lying or doing anything remotely wacky with a paycheck, you gotta bounce asap. Happened to me several times, and I find lying companies always keep lying, and honest companies rarely start. That only gets worse, never better, so either learn to live with it or get the hell out of Dodge.

lsaferite 8y ago

> Programmers are lucky in that they can take code they've written, and say "see, here's my proof that I can do the job" Most of the code I write ss closed source and owned by my employer. I never get to show off the cool things I've done. As for doing side projects to show potential employers, I have very little 'personal' time on any given day between work and family life. I no longer code for fun. Now I do chores, read, and maybe sleep a little.