I may have put words in the Grimms' mouths here, either from translation or conflation with other sources. Thank you both for the German formulas - there are e

I may have put words in the Grimms' mouths here, either from translation or conflation with other sources. Thank you both for the German formulas - there are examples from many languages at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_upon_a_time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_upon_a_time