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Is there any constitutional right that isn't also regulated with all manner of laws on top of it? Why would the gun one be any different?

by Frondo 8y ago

LyndsySimon 8y ago
I can’t think of another that is completely denied to whole groups of people at the state level. I can’t think of another where the stakes are so high for even relatively minor unintentional violations.
- Frondo 8y ago
  Right to vote is denied to huge numbers of people who were convicted of a crime and subsequently repaid their debt to society. I'm a lot more worried about them than people who want to carry guns hidden somewhere in their clothes.
  - CompanionCuuube 8y ago
    >I'm a lot more worried about them than people who want to carry guns hidden somewhere in their clothes. Same here, those people tend to be peaceful, law abiding citizens compared to ex-convicts.
    - Frondo 8y ago
      You misunderstood, maybe intentionally as a gag. I'm more worried about the constitutional rights being denied ex-cons than I am about people who want to carry guns. The people who want to carry guns are doing fine, it's the ones whose voting rights have been stripped of them that have been shut out of civic life, and that's definitely more cause for concern than the babies who whine about not having enough guns hidden among their clothes.
      - CompanionCuuube 8y ago
        That's funny, because the people who clamor on and on, whinging about the people who want to carry guns are even more inclined to keep them from the ex-convicts.
        Frondo 8y ago
        Not me, and not people I know. You do a crime, pay your debts, welcome back to society, rights and all. I also think that the second amendment can be regulated with laws just like all the rest. No one ever screams that driver's licenses infringe on our freedom of assembly...
        CompanionCuuube 8y ago
        If carry licenses worked like driver's licenses, the premise of this article wouldn't even exist. The reason they use this workaround and the reason it hasn't been closed off is that the tycoons could not have their armed security without it.
        Frondo 8y ago
        I am all in on licensing guns like we do cars, with mandatory tests and insurance requirements.
        LyndsySimon 8y ago
        Interesting that - a license is not required to purchase a car, nor is a car required to be registered unless operated on public streets. Even then, there are exceptions. Insurance is not required in many states. In Virginia, for instance, one may put up a bond in lieu of maintaining insurance. There are no states to my knowledge where insurance is required to merely own a car. Oh, and the penalty for failing to do any of the above is like $35.
        Frondo 8y ago

Is there any constitutional right that isn't also regulated with all manner of laws on top of it? Why would the gun one be any different?

by Frondo 8y ago

Is there any constitutional right that isn't also regulated with all manner of laws on top of it? Why would the gun one be any different?

LyndsySimon 8y ago

I can’t think of another that is completely denied to whole groups of people at the state level. I can’t think of another where the stakes are so high for even relatively minor unintentional violations.

Frondo 8y ago
Right to vote is denied to huge numbers of people who were convicted of a crime and subsequently repaid their debt to society. I'm a lot more worried about them than people who want to carry guns hidden somewhere in their clothes.
- CompanionCuuube 8y ago
  >I'm a lot more worried about them than people who want to carry guns hidden somewhere in their clothes. Same here, those people tend to be peaceful, law abiding citizens compared to ex-convicts.
  - Frondo 8y ago
    You misunderstood, maybe intentionally as a gag. I'm more worried about the constitutional rights being denied ex-cons than I am about people who want to carry guns. The people who want to carry guns are doing fine, it's the ones whose voting rights have been stripped of them that have been shut out of civic life, and that's definitely more cause for concern than the babies who whine about not having enough guns hidden among their clothes.
    - CompanionCuuube 8y ago
      That's funny, because the people who clamor on and on, whinging about the people who want to carry guns are even more inclined to keep them from the ex-convicts.
      - Frondo 8y ago
        Not me, and not people I know. You do a crime, pay your debts, welcome back to society, rights and all. I also think that the second amendment can be regulated with laws just like all the rest. No one ever screams that driver's licenses infringe on our freedom of assembly...
        CompanionCuuube 8y ago
        If carry licenses worked like driver's licenses, the premise of this article wouldn't even exist. The reason they use this workaround and the reason it hasn't been closed off is that the tycoons could not have their armed security without it.
        Frondo 8y ago
        I am all in on licensing guns like we do cars, with mandatory tests and insurance requirements.
        LyndsySimon 8y ago
        Interesting that - a license is not required to purchase a car, nor is a car required to be registered unless operated on public streets. Even then, there are exceptions. Insurance is not required in many states. In Virginia, for instance, one may put up a bond in lieu of maintaining insurance. There are no states to my knowledge where insurance is required to merely own a car. Oh, and the penalty for failing to do any of the above is like $35.
        Frondo 8y ago