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Have you considered that there are people out there with values that differ from yours? It's not wildly impossible, regardless of what the screaming minority wo
by relics443 8y ago
Have you considered that there are people out there with values that differ from yours? It's not wildly impossible, regardless of what the screaming minority would have you believe.
Maybe they don't have a problem with working on such projects, because they agree with their end goal?
- vokep 8y agoThey probably understand others have different values. The confusion is, some values seem so self evident that its bewildering anyone with a certain level of intelligence wouldn't realize the same values. I think the answer might be that they do have the same values, but they have a different model of the world overall, which calls for different ways of achieving those values. To take this to an extreme, imagine a person fighting for their life against actual criminals threatening vs a person fighting for their life against a random person they think is a shape-shifting alien impostor. Both are internally justified by the same values, one is externally justified by a more correct perception of reality.
- sametmax 8y agoOcam's razor, so yes. I learned very young there are differences, like I literally (NOT figurative at all) couldn't see the motivation behind destroying school equipment, drawing on walls, etc. While for some, it's fun. But even after all those years, it's just so hard to wrap my head around that.
- refurb 8y agoI'm glad someone made this comment. It blows me away when people think their set of values is the only "right" way to think and anyone else who has a different set of values is obviously damaged or doing it unwillingly.
- pandaman 8y agoThere is nothing extraordinary or even unusual in this. It's basic tribalism: my tribe is made from virtuous people who are also smart and beautiful, the enemy tribe, on the other hand, consists of deformed degenerates with the room temperature IQ.
- sametmax 8y agoNo you see you imply that I've given a value to the people here. Which is not at all what I said. I exactly said I can't understand the line of thinking that leads to the decision. That's pretty much all.
- pandaman 8y agoDid not you imply that smart people cannot possibly be in the other tribe so there has to be some reason why your tribe members are not quitting the enemy tribe cause?
- sametmax 8y agoI never used anything close to "cannot possibly". I said I could not understand. I used the words "why" and "I wonder". It's very clear. It's not ambiguous. But you seem very attached to your tribe theory, so you want my past comment to fit your present view. And it's a very conflicting view of the word too. Do you see us as enemies as well ? In which case, you win this argument. I don't want my tribe to fight yours.
- pandaman 8y agoSorry, then, if you didn't want to say that then I don't understand why you posted your message at all. It then literally amounts to "I cannot understand other people motivation" and all the references to intellect and understanding consequences and shiny toys are irrelevant. As for myself being tribal - it's very hard to observe tribalism in oneself so, while I am not seeing it, I can very well be.