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You aren't going to get the activity of football to go away even if it is risky and bad idea for ones health. Just look at all the dumb stuff our country does

You aren't going to get the activity of football to go away even if it is risky and bad idea for ones health. Just look at all the dumb stuff our country does already. To pose a different question, I always wonder if this is the wrong direction. Why not remove the helmets altogether? Or go back to the leather ones? Has their been any comparative studies from head injuries back before the plastic shell was introduced? Or perhaps relativeness to Rugby head injuries?

Someone1234 8y ago
> You aren't going to get the activity of football to go away even if it is risky and bad idea for ones health. It will never go away completely but it is already shrinking: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-football-youth-decline-met-20170904-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-footbal... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-kids-tackle-football/fewer-u-s-high-school-athletes-play-football-amid-concussion-fears-idUSKCN1GO2LY https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-kids-tackle-footba... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/sports/football/tackle-football-brain-youth.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/sports/football/tackle-fo... The younger you get the larger the loss in popularity. Contrast that against "soccer" (football) which has gained in popularity over the same period: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/shane-paul-neil/soccer-is-here-for-real-t_b_9730440.html https://www.huffingtonpost.com/shane-paul-neil/soccer-is-her... And basketball has also been surging in popularity: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/dec/12/nba-surpassed-nfl-league-of-americas-future-kareem-abdul-jabbar https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/dec/12/nba-surpassed-...
- tfandango 8y ago
  I live in a town that lives and breaths college football and this trend is very visible in the youth and HS level sports. Soccer is extremely popular.
tfandango 8y ago
I have paid for season tickets to college football for the past 18 years. Recently I've been reading more and more about this problem and I feel guilty for contributing to injury of players, willful participants or not. I'm considering not renewing and not watching, and I think we'll see the end of football (as we know it anyway) in our time. However I do find the strategy and team aspect of the game compelling. I wonder if it's possible to take the violence out and retain the tactical/athletic aspects that make it interesting to watch.
- alexchamberlain 8y ago
  As someone who has no knowledge of the American version, I wonder if the actual play could just be simulated? For a noob, how much is skill on the players part Vs strategy?
  - tfandango 8y ago
    That's one thing that makes me wonder about viability w/o violence. The athletic ability of the player to take a hit and keep going, or break/slip out of a tackle, or make a perfect throw/catch etc is quite astounding. More interesting is the subtle strategic parts that are easy to overlook: how you line up a offence/defense (coach), play calling (coach), decision making (players/coach), reading offensive/defensive schemes and adjusting (players), etc. etc. One thing I think is really unique (maybe I'm wrong about this) is that it's a team sport, half of the game is played by the other half of the team, each depending on the other to put them in a good position.
jpindar 8y ago
I don't know about studies, but players died from head injuries before modern helmets were introduced.

Someone1234 8y ago

> You aren't going to get the activity of football to go away even if it is risky and bad idea for ones health. It will never go away completely but it is already shrinking: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-football-youth-decline-met-20170904-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-footbal... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-kids-tackle-football/fewer-u-s-high-school-athletes-play-football-amid-concussion-fears-idUSKCN1GO2LY https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-kids-tackle-footba... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/sports/football/tackle-football-brain-youth.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/sports/football/tackle-fo... The younger you get the larger the loss in popularity. Contrast that against "soccer" (football) which has gained in popularity over the same period: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/shane-paul-neil/soccer-is-here-for-real-t_b_9730440.html https://www.huffingtonpost.com/shane-paul-neil/soccer-is-her... And basketball has also been surging in popularity: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/dec/12/nba-surpassed-nfl-league-of-americas-future-kareem-abdul-jabbar https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/dec/12/nba-surpassed-...

tfandango 8y ago
I live in a town that lives and breaths college football and this trend is very visible in the youth and HS level sports. Soccer is extremely popular.

tfandango 8y ago

I have paid for season tickets to college football for the past 18 years. Recently I've been reading more and more about this problem and I feel guilty for contributing to injury of players, willful participants or not. I'm considering not renewing and not watching, and I think we'll see the end of football (as we know it anyway) in our time. However I do find the strategy and team aspect of the game compelling. I wonder if it's possible to take the violence out and retain the tactical/athletic aspects that make it interesting to watch.

alexchamberlain 8y ago
As someone who has no knowledge of the American version, I wonder if the actual play could just be simulated? For a noob, how much is skill on the players part Vs strategy?
- tfandango 8y ago
  That's one thing that makes me wonder about viability w/o violence. The athletic ability of the player to take a hit and keep going, or break/slip out of a tackle, or make a perfect throw/catch etc is quite astounding. More interesting is the subtle strategic parts that are easy to overlook: how you line up a offence/defense (coach), play calling (coach), decision making (players/coach), reading offensive/defensive schemes and adjusting (players), etc. etc. One thing I think is really unique (maybe I'm wrong about this) is that it's a team sport, half of the game is played by the other half of the team, each depending on the other to put them in a good position.

jpindar 8y ago

I don't know about studies, but players died from head injuries before modern helmets were introduced.