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What does the ride hailing service and infrastructure (platform?) have to do with the drivers beyond screening them to the best of their ability? It's like sayi

What does the ride hailing service and infrastructure (platform?) have to do with the drivers beyond screening them to the best of their ability? It's like saying Mcdonalds, the post office, or any large employer should be held accountable for the crimes of their employees. I googled the most trivial of searches and got dozens of responses, here's a few. In any of these cases, is it really fair to say any of these were Uber's fault? Or Lyft's? I do not think so. Do you? https://nypost.com/2018/03/05/woman-raped-twice-trying-to-take-a-lyft-home-cops/ https://nypost.com/2018/03/05/woman-raped-twice-trying-to-ta... http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/davie/fl-sb-davie-lyft-sex-battery-20171019-story.html http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/davie/fl-sb-davie-... https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/rape-victim-suing-lyft-for-failing-to-screen-out-driver-who-attacked-her-300552177.html https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/rape-victim-suing-l... https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/boone-county/lyft-driver-accused-of-raping-zionsville-woman-before-driving-her-home https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/boone-county/...

ProAm 8y ago
Whether it's their fault or not, I believe a person should have a right to sue and lose, especially in cases of rape. You are right that Uber/Lyft/etc will likely be found not at fault, but then there is the case where Uber stole a customers medicals records in one of these rape instances [1] in which a lawsuit is more than fair for the victim. [1] https://www.recode.net/2017/6/7/15754316/uber-executive-india-assault-rape-medical-records https://www.recode.net/2017/6/7/15754316/uber-executive-indi...
- googlemike 8y ago
  Agreed. My point was merely that this is a great move from the consumer perspective, one that I doubt other companies will follow.
  - ProAm 8y ago
    Yeah it is a great move. I think the other companies will follow suit once they have an incident that causes the same level of bad PR that Uber has experienced. Once it starts to cut into their profits they will jump on board, sadly it always comes down to money.
    - malandrew 8y ago
      The other thing you can do is reward the companies that lead on these issues with your business so you encourage others to do the same. It's carrots and sticks. If a company doesn't do what you want, try sticks (punish them for not doing what you want) and carrots (reward those that do so others see that they should do the same).
lhorie 8y ago
What's more, ride hailing drivers aren't even employees to begin with in most jurisdictions, and in many cases, the drivers working with one ride hailing company actually also work with the other(s).
cortesoft 8y ago
I think it depends on what happpens. If someone with no prior record commits a crime, it shouldn’t be Uber’s fault... if they get complaints about a guy, but let him keep driving, that would be more of an issue. Basically, was there something they should have done differently that amounts to negligence.

ProAm 8y ago

Whether it's their fault or not, I believe a person should have a right to sue and lose, especially in cases of rape. You are right that Uber/Lyft/etc will likely be found not at fault, but then there is the case where Uber stole a customers medicals records in one of these rape instances [1] in which a lawsuit is more than fair for the victim. [1] https://www.recode.net/2017/6/7/15754316/uber-executive-india-assault-rape-medical-records https://www.recode.net/2017/6/7/15754316/uber-executive-indi...

googlemike 8y ago
Agreed. My point was merely that this is a great move from the consumer perspective, one that I doubt other companies will follow.
- ProAm 8y ago
  Yeah it is a great move. I think the other companies will follow suit once they have an incident that causes the same level of bad PR that Uber has experienced. Once it starts to cut into their profits they will jump on board, sadly it always comes down to money.
  - malandrew 8y ago
    The other thing you can do is reward the companies that lead on these issues with your business so you encourage others to do the same. It's carrots and sticks. If a company doesn't do what you want, try sticks (punish them for not doing what you want) and carrots (reward those that do so others see that they should do the same).

lhorie 8y ago

What's more, ride hailing drivers aren't even employees to begin with in most jurisdictions, and in many cases, the drivers working with one ride hailing company actually also work with the other(s).

cortesoft 8y ago

I think it depends on what happpens. If someone with no prior record commits a crime, it shouldn’t be Uber’s fault... if they get complaints about a guy, but let him keep driving, that would be more of an issue. Basically, was there something they should have done differently that amounts to negligence.