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I don't know anything of the technical details of Simon and Speck, but distrusting the NSA hardly entails a tinfoil hat.

• tptacek 8y ago
  "Distrusting" one of the simplest "mainstream" ARX ciphers entails a little bit of tin foil. That's not really why ISO isn't moving forward with them.
  • xansi 8y ago
    That seems to be exactly why ISO isn't moving forward, or at least has been in the past. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-standards-insight/distrustful-u-s-allies-force-spy-agency-to-back-down-in-encryption-fight-idUSKCN1BW0GV https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-standards-insight/d...
    • tptacek 8y ago
      Distrust of the NSA has cost it the deference it was given by academic cryptographers to basically ignore the process norms of public crypto standards. That's not the same as saying the academic cryptography community distrusts a simple ARX design.
• ddtaylor 8y ago
  This is a pre-2013 discussion.