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> Node.js I'm not sure where your downloading your software, as there is (and has been for at least the last 4 years) a graphical installer on the downloads pa

> Node.js I'm not sure where your downloading your software, as there is (and has been for at least the last 4 years) a graphical installer on the downloads page for osx: https://nodejs.org/en/download/ https://nodejs.org/en/download/ Maybe I just haven't paid enough attention when doing this, but nearly every repository of every package for node has the default instructions for *nix command line. One of my most used packages is `n`, and the first line after the description is "Unfortunately n is not supported on Windows yet" It's main alternative, `nvm` also has: "Note: nvm does not support Windows" and suggests an alternative specifically named `nvm-windows`. When you have to specify the operating system in the name, it's typically the "off-brand".

hungerstrike 8y ago
I bet you don’t use the graphical installer on your Mac though do you? Why is that? What do you do instead?
- lloyd-christmas 8y ago
  > I bet you don’t use the graphical installer on your Mac though do you? Your mind reading skills are terrible. I'm not sure who or what gave you that impression. EDIT: Again, from the node site, clicking on install with package manager, both windows and osx lead off with "simply download the installer" before listing alternatives. https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#macos https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#macos https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#windows https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#windows
  - hungerstrike 8y ago
    OK fine. I see a lot of people using homebrew. What about python? You have to replace the built-in one don’t you?
    - Fnoord 8y ago
      > OK fine. I see a lot of people using homebrew. Its been the defacto standard for package management for a while, and it works on top of the base OS thanks to /usr/local having priority in $PATH > What about python? You have to replace the built-in one don’t you? If Python 2.7.10 doesn't suit your needs, yes. $ /usr/bin/python --version Python 2.7.10 $ /usr/local/bin/python2 --version Python 2.7.15 $ /usr/local/bin/python3 --version Python 3.6.5 Same with Bash: $ /bin/bash --version GNU bash, version 3.2.57(1)-release (x86_64-apple-darwin17) Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc. $ /usr/local/bin/bash --version GNU bash, version 4.4.19(1)-release (x86_64-apple-darwin17.3.0) Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. With Python it is a bit annoying with variables but other than that not a big deal. I started out with Bash v2 so that's my reference point. Sometimes its annoying for portability reasons. Rumor is Apple doesn't like GPLv3. I don't see it as a big problem but that is thanks to the efforts of Homebrew package maintainers.
      - lloyd-christmas 8y ago
        > Its been the defacto standard for package management While I agree that it's a standard for package management, I don't think that using a package manager is the defacto standard. I've yet to see any onboarding docs that use brew install, for the reasons I stated parallel to your comment.
    - lloyd-christmas 8y ago
      > I see a lot of people using homebrew. The major reason I don't use homebrew and don't recommend it is because it's an absolute pain to use a version manager due to where brew stores its binary files. I don't use python very frequently, so I don't really think much about it much when installing. I'm pretty sure I installed it with anaconda, but can't remember. As I mentioned above I doubt I used brew for the same reason. I typically only use brew for installing linux commands that are absent from osx or for one-off uses of something random. Looking at my brew list, it's things like phantomjs or rethinkdb. I'll uninstall them with brew and use their installer if I actually end up using them.

hungerstrike 8y ago

I bet you don’t use the graphical installer on your Mac though do you? Why is that? What do you do instead?

lloyd-christmas 8y ago
> I bet you don’t use the graphical installer on your Mac though do you? Your mind reading skills are terrible. I'm not sure who or what gave you that impression. EDIT: Again, from the node site, clicking on install with package manager, both windows and osx lead off with "simply download the installer" before listing alternatives. https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#macos https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#macos https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#windows https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#windows
- hungerstrike 8y ago
  OK fine. I see a lot of people using homebrew. What about python? You have to replace the built-in one don’t you?
  - Fnoord 8y ago
    > OK fine. I see a lot of people using homebrew. Its been the defacto standard for package management for a while, and it works on top of the base OS thanks to /usr/local having priority in $PATH > What about python? You have to replace the built-in one don’t you? If Python 2.7.10 doesn't suit your needs, yes. $ /usr/bin/python --version Python 2.7.10 $ /usr/local/bin/python2 --version Python 2.7.15 $ /usr/local/bin/python3 --version Python 3.6.5 Same with Bash: $ /bin/bash --version GNU bash, version 3.2.57(1)-release (x86_64-apple-darwin17) Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc. $ /usr/local/bin/bash --version GNU bash, version 4.4.19(1)-release (x86_64-apple-darwin17.3.0) Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. With Python it is a bit annoying with variables but other than that not a big deal. I started out with Bash v2 so that's my reference point. Sometimes its annoying for portability reasons. Rumor is Apple doesn't like GPLv3. I don't see it as a big problem but that is thanks to the efforts of Homebrew package maintainers.
    - lloyd-christmas 8y ago
      > Its been the defacto standard for package management While I agree that it's a standard for package management, I don't think that using a package manager is the defacto standard. I've yet to see any onboarding docs that use brew install, for the reasons I stated parallel to your comment.
  - lloyd-christmas 8y ago
    > I see a lot of people using homebrew. The major reason I don't use homebrew and don't recommend it is because it's an absolute pain to use a version manager due to where brew stores its binary files. I don't use python very frequently, so I don't really think much about it much when installing. I'm pretty sure I installed it with anaconda, but can't remember. As I mentioned above I doubt I used brew for the same reason. I typically only use brew for installing linux commands that are absent from osx or for one-off uses of something random. Looking at my brew list, it's things like phantomjs or rethinkdb. I'll uninstall them with brew and use their installer if I actually end up using them.