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Just to name few random regressions that I ran into the last year or so: - Location services steals focus from XQuartz. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7

Just to name few random regressions that I ran into the last year or so: - Location services steals focus from XQuartz. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7964085 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7964085 - Emacs (non-X11 version) regularly triggers a bug in the display server that freezes it hard. Haven't been able to debug it further. I have mostly stopped using Emacs on macOS because of this bug. - Every few reboots, my Mac freezes and I have to do a hard reboot. - Every few days or so, sound stops working. I have to do a sudo killall coreaudiod and then everything is fine again. Well, except the volume control in the system tray, that comes back after a couple of hours. - Some monitoring tools, like htop freeze macOS: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16082861 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16082861 - Keynote doesn't open some older Keynote presentations correctly anymore (e.g. things converted with PDF2Keynote). Also, longer-term: Spaces was much nicer for power users than Mission Control. The Mac App Store seems to become slower all the time. Airport Utility is pretty limited compared to the older version. The killed genuinely useful Pages features like linked text boxes when they rebased on iOS iWork (they are finally back after years). Etc. I guess I don't have to mention the embarrassing security bugs that we had since the High Sierra release.

auslander 8y ago
XQuartz and Emacs is open source, not MacOS. Checking other stuff ... lol, compare your grievances to windows folks and you'd have a nice grin all over your face forever :)) > my Mac freezes ... sound stops working reinstall Mac OS fresh, erasing the drive. 99% you hacked your OS badly.
- danieldk 8y ago
  XQuartz and Emacs is open source, not MacOS. But these bugs are in macOS. An unprivileged program should not be able to crash the display server. reinstall Mac OS fresh, erasing the drive. 99% you hacked your OS badly. No, I recently did a fresh install (along with the usual NVRAM, PRAM reset, etc.)
Fnoord 8y ago
Those are fair concerns. I got some of these issues as well, and others as well. AFAIK though the htop bug got fixed, and I agree with auslander that these are open source products (you're on your own w/them; don't blame Apple unless its clearly a bug in macOS which it looks like it was with htop). I do think 10.13 had some security disasters (and those regressions are widely known, documented, and discussed including on HN). Apple's focus moved from macOS to iOS. macOS appears an afterthought.
- auslander 8y ago
  > security disasters would you argue that Windows is More secure? Yeah, there is Gnome and plethora of Linux desktops, but we're talking mass market. And I Am interested in enumerating the disasters, is there any not patched yet? Genuinely interested, as I'm a user :))
- danieldk 8y ago
  Emacs freezing the display server or location services hijacking focus are macOS bugs, not bugs in these open source projects. I can accept that the location services bug is not fixed, since it primarily affect XQuartz. But an application should not be able to crash the display server.

auslander 8y ago

XQuartz and Emacs is open source, not MacOS. Checking other stuff ... lol, compare your grievances to windows folks and you'd have a nice grin all over your face forever :)) > my Mac freezes ... sound stops working reinstall Mac OS fresh, erasing the drive. 99% you hacked your OS badly.

danieldk 8y ago
XQuartz and Emacs is open source, not MacOS. But these bugs are in macOS. An unprivileged program should not be able to crash the display server. reinstall Mac OS fresh, erasing the drive. 99% you hacked your OS badly. No, I recently did a fresh install (along with the usual NVRAM, PRAM reset, etc.)

Fnoord 8y ago

Those are fair concerns. I got some of these issues as well, and others as well. AFAIK though the htop bug got fixed, and I agree with auslander that these are open source products (you're on your own w/them; don't blame Apple unless its clearly a bug in macOS which it looks like it was with htop). I do think 10.13 had some security disasters (and those regressions are widely known, documented, and discussed including on HN). Apple's focus moved from macOS to iOS. macOS appears an afterthought.

auslander 8y ago
> security disasters would you argue that Windows is More secure? Yeah, there is Gnome and plethora of Linux desktops, but we're talking mass market. And I Am interested in enumerating the disasters, is there any not patched yet? Genuinely interested, as I'm a user :))
danieldk 8y ago
Emacs freezing the display server or location services hijacking focus are macOS bugs, not bugs in these open source projects. I can accept that the location services bug is not fixed, since it primarily affect XQuartz. But an application should not be able to crash the display server.