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This comment seriously makes me question what you think lower-class is or is like. The comment comes off as tone-deaf. Neither of them are "self-made", they bo
by batty_alex 8y ago
This comment seriously makes me question what you think lower-class is or is like. The comment comes off as tone-deaf.
Neither of them are "self-made", they both had crazy access to electronics that hardly anyone else did at the time. They both did amazing things but, you're hand-waving away their real history for some "bootstrap-y" American success story.
Also, John Carmack WAS an asshole at id. Read Masters Of Doom sometime when you get a chance, loads of hubris and broken friendships in there.
- ovao 8y agoJobs built his empire out of his garage. Is that not how the quintessential self-made success story usually starts?
- staunch 8y ago1. Being lower-class in America means things like your parents are not well educated, they don't have any significant amount of savings, you attend public school, you aren't prepped for college, your parents can't pay for college, your parents can't support you as an adult, etc. They're not middle-class, and not upper-class, so they're lower-class. 2. Bill Gates parents were very upper-class, he attended expensive private school, was pushed into Harvard, and he had exclusive access to brand new computers that almost no children did at the time. Jobs/Carmack had no access similar to computers at private school. 3. I've read Masters of Doom and don't think any reasonable person would describe him as "an asshole" at all. Defining someone by their flaws says more about the definer than the defined.