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Google is rebranding storage plans as “Google One”
- roflchoppa 8y agowoah woah woah, you can talk to technical help with google products under this same branch? Sounds like they undercutting AppleCare ha
- pavel_lishin 8y ago> Be among the first to know when Google One is available in your area. What does my area have to do with an online storage offering? I'm not giving them my zipcode. Anyway, taking all bets on whether this doppelganger will be killed off, or whether two more doppelgangers will be launched.
- abakker 8y agoYes, your area does matter. In some countries, there are requirements that your data be housed in a data center in your country. They may not have this option yet.
- eigenvector 8y agoGoogle is the market leader in region-locking things that have no logical reason to be region-locked.
- lumoon 8y agoDropbox down 4% today so far.
- hs86 8y agoThey introduced a second 1 TB plan for twice the price with questionable added value except for Smart Sync and their offerings with more storage space are only made for teams. Maybe it is time for me to switch away from Dropbox? Previously, one of the main advantages of Dropbox was their reliable sync client but this attribute is fading away: When I do many little file operations on Windows (npm, TeX Live), I expect to see MsMpEng.exe to eat away my CPU cycles. This is somewhat expected from an on demand antivirus scanner and as a Windows user it is somewhat common to whitelist some project folders or temporarily disable the AV before starting certain tasks. On macOS the same thing happens thanks to Dropbox! Even outside of my Dropbox folder their sync client seems to intercept all file operations and do some CPU-heavy calculations on them. I don't know when this started and what the technical explanation for this is but at some time the Dropbox client on the Mac started to cause a system-wide performance regression. What is the state of Google One sync client? In the past I read some bad reports about it but after several rebrandings maybe it has matured technically?
- stefan_ 8y agoWell, for starters, it doesn't exist on Linux.
- lstamour 8y agoI haven't received obscure python error messages in awhile... but then that was because I switched to odrive as a sync client, about two years back. Really, Google Drive the website and storage service are both amazing, but the client apps? Not so much... At least they've a clear API (fourth gen now?) so third party apps are easily supported.
- woolvalley 8y agoWhen you have two 'file monitoring' apps accessing each other's scan space, they can interpret each other's access as edits and go into a CPU loop. Dropbox and any other sync client will do this. I generally look at AV as effectively useless and badly made, your system will speed up a lot in general (independent of dropbox) if you stop using it. > Some third-party apps access files in your Dropbox folder. Dropbox may interpret this access as edits to the files, and sync these perceived changes. If a third-party app continually requests access to your files, Dropbox will continue to sync, which will in turn lead to high CPU usage. > This loop usually occurs with third-party syncing apps, backup apps, and anti-virus or security software, or when a third-party app is installed within the Dropbox folder. > https://www.dropbox.com/help/desktop-web/high-cpu-usage https://www.dropbox.com/help/desktop-web/high-cpu-usage
- vvanders 8y ago> Google already offered 24/7 support for paying business users with a G Suite account, but this is the first time it actively offers live support for consumers. About fucking time. I know so many people who will never purchase another Google product because it's was literally impossible to get another human being on the other end of the line.
- throwaway40483 8y agoThis is the reason I think Amazon will end up winning the cloud computing race. Providing support is simply not in Googles DNA.
- heavymark 8y agoI think providing supports to regular consumers may not have been in their dna, but I've been using the business chat/phone/email support through Google Apps, and they have always been top notch. While their answers weren't always what I wanted to hear, that was because of Google policy, versus the reps themselves. Most all of which have been very knowledgeable and human over the years versus most all of the other support channels I've used for companies other than Apple of course. However, there is an enormous amount of more consumers than business customers, so no idea how that support will scale, and if the consumers will get the same level of expertise as business but will be interesting to find out.
- alehul 8y agoThe cost of support has to come from somewhere -- is either Amazon or Google generally cheaper for cloud computing? (I know ~nothing in this area). I could definitely imagine a market for both a cheaper service that's lacking support and a more expensive one that offers increased support. With that said, with Amazon's efficiency in logistics, I could definitely imagine them implementing support at a negligible cost.
- Operyl 8y agoAmazon.com’s support is so terrible, even for those easy consumer questions I sometimes have. Their AWS support is amazing though.
- throwaway40483 8y agoAh yes. The good, old Google we all know and love. Introducing yet another confusing name for an existing product.
- sofaofthedamned 8y agoWhen on earth will Google give custom domains the full Google consumer experience? Like many people I did this before gsuite happened for my personal account and I'm happy to pay for this.
- ModernMech 8y agoAfter having to change their name from Sky Drive to One Drive following a trademark dispute, I think maybe Microsoft might have something to say about Google calling their online storage solution "One" as well. I mean come on, I know it's a very generic name, but it's nearly identical to one of their biggest competitors in this exact space.
- throwaway40483 8y agoIt's even worse. They already have something called Android One. I'm sure this won't cause any confusion.
- heartbreak 8y agoI honestly cannot keep up with Google's constant brand churn. I have never heard of Android One. I'll probably forget what Google One is by next week, because it's just plans on Google Drive which itself was born out of Docs, and so on.
- minhazm 8y agoI thought this was an announcement about Android One when I read the headline.
- _sdegutis 8y agoAnd MS has Xbox One. What's with all the 1s?
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- crazygringo 8y ago> free one-tap access to Google Experts for help with any Google consumer product and service. This is huge. Together with having removed ads that scanned your e-mail from consumer Gmail, it looks like Google's consumer offerings could actually be changing course from "you're the product" to "you're the customer" -- or at least be giving you the choice. Of course, you could always get a single-seat G Suite for business account for $5 or $10/mo. with 24/7 phone support too, but it was a little too complicated and inflexible for most consumers.
- bomb199 8y agoI'm more curious - as someone who works in Cloud Support - what kind of "Experts" we are talking about here. The Google product space is massive.
- dbbk 8y agoYeah, I'm quite surprised by this, they're not just offering support for Google One but ANY consumer Google product? There's like, thousands.
- notatoad 8y agoGoogle one isn't a consumer product, just a payment plan, so it seems unlikely that the support is only for "google one". Google Drive is still Google Drive, not Google One.
- dragonwriter 8y ago> Google one isn't a consumer product It's a paid consumer product whose core element is storage space for use with other Google services.
- crazygringo 8y agoAs long as there's a guaranteed path of timely escalation for cases of data loss and account hacking/lockout, I'll be happy.
- th0br0 8y agoNot seeing the updated 2TB->$9.99 plan yet in Europe :/ Wonder whether this is just for the US?
- rapfaria 8y agoNot live yet.
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- dorfsmay 8y agoNot finding any details about it. Anybody knows if they'll finally be providing Linux support?
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- mbesto 8y agoSo, I've never been able to figure this out. If you pay for single-seat G-suite (using my personal @gmail.com address) does it also eliminate ads in gmail, etc (obviously not on search)?
- ValentineC 8y ago> If you pay for single-seat G-suite (using my personal @gmail.com address) You need your own domain to be able to use G Suite. To answer your question: I don't recall ever seeing ads on the Gmail interfaces of any of my G Suite email accounts.
- Havoc 8y agoNot on YouTube. Not sure about rest cause adblocker You can disable scrapping though. Ie you get generic ads
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- bg0 8y agoWorth noting that it isn't available yet. > Initially, Google One will only be available on a limited basis. If you have a paid Drive storage plan, you’ll be automatically upgraded to Google One over the coming months. Look out for an email with details on your new benefits.
- fragmede 8y agohttps://abevoelker.github.io/how-long-since-google-said-a-google-drive-linux-client-is-coming/ https://abevoelker.github.io/how-long-since-google-said-a-go... currently says 6 years 20 days and 1 hour since Google claimed a Linux client is coming.
- applecrazy 8y agoThe original Google product thread is gone, is there a mirror?
- TwoNineA 8y agoThe moment they come out with a Linux client, the moment I will be a customer.
- solomatov 8y agoThere's native support for gdrive in GNOME via accounts.
- Kalroth 8y agoYou can use rclone while you wait: https://rclone.org/ https://rclone.org/
- brocket 8y agoI've been using https://github.com/odeke-em/drive https://github.com/odeke-em/drive for awhile without issues, originally written by a Googler. I've also heard good things about insync.
- josefdlange 8y agoBut... what is it?
- doctorRetro 8y agoSeconded. I hate these kind of vague announcements. Best I can tell is it's Drive plus... something? Hard to get excited when you don't know what it is.
- fluxsauce 8y agoMy takeaway is a large cloud storage plan that's cheaper than what they had before.
- simcop2387 8y agoNot entirely sure, but it looks like a new branding of Google Drive. Can't tell from the announcement if there's more to it than that though. edit: Maybe more of a compilation of google apps for business with drive?
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- NullPrefix 8y agoIt's the future.
- dragonwriter 8y agoIt's the existing paid extra Drive Storage that (despite the name) provided storage from Drive, Gmail, and Photos. It's being rebranded to separate it from Drive. And they have firm plans to make it family-shareable soon, and less firm plans to bundle other ancillary benefits with it down the line.
- bb88 8y agoSo wasabi (a Gdrive competitor) dropped their egress fees. So it's just $4.99/TB flat rate. It doesn't surprise me that google wants to change it's pricing structure.
- discaler 8y ago> In addition to access to experts, the company also promises to provide subscribers with other benefits. Google One’s director Larissa Fontaine told me that those could include discounts on hotels you find in Google Search, preferred rates for other Google services, or credits on Google Play. “We hope to build those out over time,” she noted. Giving you discounts if you use google search. Not sure they are using their search dominance innovatively or abusing it to promote this.
- abalone 8y agoMissing context: this is catching up to last year's iCloud pricing (200GB for $2.99, 2TB for $9.99). Not sure how the new support feature compares to free/paid Apple support options. Not a lot of details on it yet.
- mkirklions 8y agoFollowing up on this question of cost per TB. Not trying to shill this crypto(because I dont know if it really works). But this crypto claims to be selling 1TB/2$/mo https://siastats.info/storage_pricing https://siastats.info/storage_pricing So is Sia coin actually cheaper than these big players? Or are there hidden fees?
- garblegarble 8y ago>because I dont know if it really works Sounds like you have your answer?
- mkirklions 8y agoNo, I havent used the service. I dont think its fair to make a conclusion without having evidence.
- dragonwriter 8y agoNo, the reason is that you (and other people) don't know if it works. Trust in a brand can be a big factor in supportable price.
- reaperducer 8y ago>Missing context: this is catching up to last year's iCloud pricing (200GB for $2.99, 2TB for $9.99). But... but... but... Apple is always more expensive than Google! I'm just paying for the brand!
- amriksohata 8y agoWow they undercut microsofts pricing
- blackoil 8y agofor 10$ MS gives 5 account with 1TB each so total 5TB and office for each account. Really hard to beat that deal.
- electriclove 8y agoCan we get Family Groups enabled for G Suite accounts? My family is on a G Suite account and it is frustrating being unable to take advantage of any Family features (sharing purchases, music, etc).
- Havoc 8y agoA paid biz account can piggy back off a free one for fam music btw
- dguo 8y agoI'm happy to see the 200 GB plan. I use Google Drive instead of Dropbox because I only have ~70 GB of data. Now if I hit the 100 GB limit, I can just pay for an extra 100 GB instead of having to go all the way up to 1 TB. I don't understand why Dropbox doesn't offer more pricing tiers. I'd happily switch since unlike Google Drive, they have an official Linux client.
- nafizh 8y agoNot only Dropbox is not adding more tiers for single users, they are actively pushing everyone to a dropbox business plan.
- eugeniub 8y agoEveryone? How so?
- sho 8y agoI am somewhat worried about Dropbox. They are giving every indication of trying to "pivot" away from file storage into some kind of unwanted "shared collaboration space" where I can "unleash the creativity of my team" or what not. Just check out their company blurb: > Dropbox is a modern workspace designed to reduce busywork-so you can focus on the things that matter. Sign in and put your creative energy to work. NOOO!!!! Just store my files damn it!
- colemannugent 8y agoI like the pricing model, but why couldn't this just be an upgrade to Google Drive? On second thought, why couldn't this be a $9.99 a month bundle of YouTube Red, 1TB Google Drive, Google Play Music, some Google Voice credits, and add free Google Search?
- kyrra 8y agoIt is an upgrade to Google Drive, per the Techcrunch article > It’s also rebranding these storage plans (but not Google Drive itself) as “Google One.” > Google will upgrade all existing storage plans to Google One accounts [0] https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/14/say-hello-to-google-one/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/14/say-hello-to-google-one/
- knodi 8y agoHope this leads to iCloud pricing drop.
- heartbreak 8y agoiCloud is already at 2TB for $9.99/mo and has been since last year. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201238 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201238
- macpete4712 8y agoWe probably should get - not pay - money for donating (again) all our data to Google.
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- kriro 8y ago"""That access to live experts — not some barely functional AI chatbot — comes with every Google One plan""" My guess is they want to collect enough data from these service interactions to eventually replace the service people with AI (or even plan on A/Bing some AIs right away to see how much people notice, sort of a crow sourced turing test).
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- ianstormtaylor 8y agoI think this article is missing the bigger picture—this isn't about storage. This is Google trying to copy the success of Amazon Prime. They're going to try to unify lots of different benefits under a single, high-value subscription. The storage plans and priority support are just the first benefit they've tied to the subscription. > In addition to access to experts, the company also promises to provide subscribers with other benefits. Google One’s director Larissa Fontaine told me that those could include discounts on hotels you find in Google Search, preferred rates for other Google services or credits on Google Play. “We hope to build those out over time,” she noted. That would make more sense as to why they're "rebranding" these plans an not just updating Google Drive's pricing plans. "Google One" isn't a single product, it's a single subscription across many products, just like Amazon Prime. Of course, I could be wrong. It does seem like a weird way to launch the subscription if that's what they're trying to do, since the announcement goes deep into the weeds of storage. And the low-end plans seem much too cheap to be able to add meaningful benefits to in the future. Even the idea of multiple tiers of the subscription might be too complicated. One of the nice things about Prime is that although it's expensive, there's only one option. Seeing as this is Google we're talking about, I could imagine this new subscription will have incredible amounts of churn in branding, pricing and benefits along the way, and probably end up as a confusing mess in the minds of customers. Amazon's Prime took a very different route. It started out as a very clear subscription service for cheaper shipping, and then added more and more benefits as time went on. These days it's a little confusing, but it didn't start that way. If Google already can't get the messaging to be clear, it doesn't bode well for them adding lots of orthogonal benefits in the future and keeping it all sane. I bet we'll see a Stratechery article about Google One in the context of Amazon Prime soon.
- OrwellianChild 8y agoI agree that this definitely looks like the play - Google's "Prime" service. I only hope that they choose a more reasonable strategy for migrating users to it as they expand features. YouTube Red can become part of a Google One tier for new users with older users grandfathered. Integration of existing user bases can happen later. Storage is a cheap benefit to provide for the average user who won't use it all. YouTube Red is already $9.99 - just add the 2TB Drive option for free and starting selling everyone on the Google One branding. Please don't screw this up?
- pgt 8y agoThe naive name for this product bundling would be Google Bundle, GBundle, but that would rub regulators the wrong way. The first rule of UX and branding is: don't make me think. Using a digit in a brand name is a question mark, just like Google Plus. Or was it Google+? It gets in the way of the meat of your message. Why would Google would rub up against Microsoft OneDrive with Google (One?) Drive? Is it going to be Google1? 1Google? OneGoogle? The Google Bundle/Spire thing could be called Google Together, or Google Everything, or Google Red, and it would be as effective without the confusion. I don't know what this is and the brand confusion pushes me toward other more clearly defined storage services. I pay for Dropbox...because I know what it does and it won't go away.
- OrwellianChild 8y agoI understand the potential confusion, but do you think this has hurt the Xbox One adoption? I think it's probably possible to execute a "One" branding correctly, provided it gives the users a sort of "universal" experience ala Prime.
- andrewmcwatters 8y agoIt's just tiring. If you're not willing to avoid bullshit from the get-go with your name—in a world full of people trying to sell me shit and take my attention—I won't be interested in learning more. The discovery stops right there for me until I'm bombarded with positive suggestions from my friends who did allow someone else to bullshit them.
- ballenf 8y agoI definitely think the Xbox One was hurt by having a name requiring an explanation to newcomers. Not to mention that there were a flurry of original xbox's being passed off on craigslist/ebay as "xbox 1 in like new condition!". Given the number of those listings I saw early on, I just have to think there were a few grandparents who got conned and got a bad taste from the experience. Maybe some of them just said screw it, I'll get a PS4 because I know that's the right one. Probably just a blip of an impact overall, but greater than zero.
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- Bromskloss 8y agoI miss Ubuntu One? :-(
- Bromskloss 8y agoI accidentally typed a question mark, but I meant it to be an exclamation!
- cphuntington97 8y agoFollowing in the trend of Google Hangouts, Google will eventually split the services back into different products.
- kachurovskiy 8y agoLooks like we have 2 Google Ones now. https://one.google.com/ https://one.google.com/ https://onetoday.google.com/ https://onetoday.google.com/
- dragonwriter 8y agoHaving a distinct brand for the storage shared (currently) between Drive, Gmail, and Photos rather than calling it Drive Storage is sensible. The actual brand is distinctly non-communicative, and the vague ideas for ancillary benefits seem a bit odd with no relation to the core product.
- spacesarebetter 8y agoOne of the reasons i prefer an independent storage service is because i don't want to have everything in one basket. I use Google for Gmail and Photos. I would rather keep my files with someone else. e.g like Dropbox or iCloud. The downside is that Dropbox is expensive although it blows all the storage companies in terms of features and stability while icloud is too basic.
- PhantomBKB 8y agoNow with Google Duplex, you may never know if the Experts are "real".
- zantana 8y agoWith storage it always seems that the devil's in the details. Are there any upload/download caps in place? Are they documented? Are they scanning it? Downsampling it? Checking it against some DMCA database? What happens when Junior shares his Bluray rips with his buddies at school? Are they blocking rclone? How about 6 months from now? Net neutrality is toast, caps are the norm and they're closing the service in 6 months, but it will take you a year to get the files back, is there a snowball offer? After the one drive and amazon about faces, can anyone take them seriously.
- agentdrtran 8y ago1) Yes, 750GB upload limit a day. Not sure about download. 2) no 3) No 4-5) Maybe? Nobody I know who does this has been caught
- dragonwriter 8y agoI know of people getting caught pirating on Drive, but it was for stuff publicly shared where either the IP owner found it or had it reported to them from another user.
- chipperyman573 8y agoThere's a daily 10TB download limit according to people on the internet BTW. https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/802ygu/-/dustd34/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/802ygu/-/dustd...
- chrisper 8y agoOut of all cloud storage providers, Google is the only one that can provide me with great speeds (I have Gbit Internet).
- PaulHoule 8y agoDid they hire somebody from Microsoft to name this?
- amoorthy 8y agoJust a comment on branding. I worked for RealNetworks a long, long time ago and I remember when we came out with RealPlayer One in 2002. This was an effort to bring a bunch of products together in the face of competition from MS and others. The vision and company failed spectacularly. The "One" branding strategy strikes me as a way to bring together disparate offerings that people can't articulate easily to users and probably shouldn't be bundled together. Maybe Google is about to do the same: "Google One’s director Larissa Fontaine told me that those could include discounts on hotels you find in Google Search, preferred rates for other Google services or credits on Google Play".
- transfire 8y agoTime travel is not as illogical as it might first appear. The paradox, say, of you traveling back in time to kill your father before he impregnated your mother is easily resolved -- it never happened and is never going to happen because otherwise you would not be here to do it.
- bge0 8y agoWhere is my god damn native linux client?
- Havoc 8y agoThis is getting renamed before end of year. Watch
- Walkman 8y agoI have a 32 TB machine sitting under my desk. It will return it's cost in less than a year. Storage is very expensive in the cloud.
- blackoil 8y agoIt is multiple times replicated across geography, and available anywhere. So it's more than a disk.
- Walkman 8y agoI agree, but pretty sure that 90% of the average users doesn't need geo-replicated safety. It's nice to have, of course, but does it worth it? You can buy a couple of HDDs for multiple backup copies and it's an order of magnitude cheaper.
- profalseidol 8y agoWhy is "One" so popular? A lot new buildings in my city has this word as well.
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