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I certainly didn’t wait til I turned 21. Going to bars was a big part of the social scene at my university, and fake ids were quite common.

• learc83 8y ago
  Ids are getting much harder to fake with REAL ID requirements, and a lot of jurisdictions are very tough on bars that serve to minors even if they had a fake id. An easy way to deter fake ids that was pretty common even a decade ago was to have off duty cops checking ids, so that being discovered can result in jail time instead of just getting kicked out. They even have apps now that can detect most fake ids.
  • gowld 8y ago
    And we take another step forward to the authoritarian police state; throwing people in jail for trying to do things that jailers did freely when they were younger, while boosting employment opportunities for the agents of the state to make their money by renting out the privilege of their authoritarian power.
    • learc83 8y ago
      Just to be clear, I'm not advocating anything I mentioned above. I am very much opposed to the practice of hiring off duty police officers to effectively rent the power of the state.