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I'm really sick of Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook and every other company that uses lies, deceit, ambiguity and general dark patterns to coerce me into part

I'm really sick of Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook and every other company that uses lies, deceit, ambiguity and general dark patterns to coerce me into parting with the ownership of my systems. Google must be laughing their asses off with all the Facebook scrutiny - I am pretty sure that the profile FB has on users and non-users alike is but a vague precis when compared with the profile Google has on all of us. Microsoft has now started claiming that "Windows is a service" and they can fuck right off. I have lost count on the amount of times my machine rebooted in the middle of the night, despite implementing hack after hack to stop this disgusting behaviour. I paid for my hardware, and I paid for my software - none of these bastards get to decide what part of my data they get to siphon off. They are all at it, like pigs on the trough. I bought a OnePlus 2 years ago, due to the promise that it is lightweight, has no crap pre-installed like an unremovable facebook, or whatever else these fuckers come up with next. Turns out OnePlus is just as happy grabbing your data and silently siphoning this off to some hidden database. I have a new PC on the way, which will be the first time in about 10 years that I'll be going back to a Linux desktop as my main daily driver. My phone is next, I'm looking for a nice feature phone that doesn't send my private information back to these fuckers. Stallman was right.

Lio 8y ago
Could I suggest you look at https://puri.sm/products/ https://puri.sm/products/ for both private phone and laptops running Linux. They can't deliver everything that RMS would look for in a laptop or phone yet but they are actively working to remove all binary blobs from their CoreBoot BIOS and to disable the Intel Management Engine. Their OS is already FSF compliant.
- mdekkers 8y ago
  Thanks for the tip!
wilsonnb 8y ago
I am curious why you think that these companies shouldn't be able to use your data because you paid for the software. Just because you paid for a software license doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with said software. I understand why people don't like this but I don't understand what principles people use to decide that it is immoral or should be illegal.
- mdekkers 8y ago
  Just because you paid for a software license doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with said software. Just because I bought their software doesn't mean they get to do what they like with my data, or my systems. The only right these companies get is that they can give me their software to use.
  - wilsonnb 8y ago
    It does mean they can do what they want with your system because the hardware and software are so closely linked. If Microsoft doesn't have the right to control your system then they can't sell you an operation system. That's what an OS does. I also do not see why you think they have no right to your data. If you send them the data, they should be able to use it for whatever purpose they want that you agree to in the license. Assuming it's not illegal for some other reason, like credit card fraud. I don't understand what principles people use to decide that they own all of their data and all data about themselves. It doesn't make sense to me.

Lio 8y ago

Could I suggest you look at https://puri.sm/products/ https://puri.sm/products/ for both private phone and laptops running Linux. They can't deliver everything that RMS would look for in a laptop or phone yet but they are actively working to remove all binary blobs from their CoreBoot BIOS and to disable the Intel Management Engine. Their OS is already FSF compliant.

mdekkers 8y ago
Thanks for the tip!

wilsonnb 8y ago

I am curious why you think that these companies shouldn't be able to use your data because you paid for the software. Just because you paid for a software license doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with said software. I understand why people don't like this but I don't understand what principles people use to decide that it is immoral or should be illegal.

mdekkers 8y ago
Just because you paid for a software license doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with said software. Just because I bought their software doesn't mean they get to do what they like with my data, or my systems. The only right these companies get is that they can give me their software to use.
- wilsonnb 8y ago
  It does mean they can do what they want with your system because the hardware and software are so closely linked. If Microsoft doesn't have the right to control your system then they can't sell you an operation system. That's what an OS does. I also do not see why you think they have no right to your data. If you send them the data, they should be able to use it for whatever purpose they want that you agree to in the license. Assuming it's not illegal for some other reason, like credit card fraud. I don't understand what principles people use to decide that they own all of their data and all data about themselves. It doesn't make sense to me.