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Enslaved and then marooned on Tromelin Island for fifteen years (2014)
- dyukqu 8y agoHere is a HN thread from 2015 with 131 comments for those who are interested: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10802088 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10802088
- lostlogin 8y agoIt is well worth reading the comments - it contains a discussion about how long you can run a fire burning only wood from your boat. Out pops the guy with boat burning experience.
- kapauldo 8y agoWhat a neat story. I read the whole article, thanks for sharing.
- hammock 8y agoThere is a great movie called Paradise Lagoon that is similar- a family and their domestic servants are stranded on an island. Spoiler: the butler is the only guy fit to lead everyone to survival. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Admirable_Crichton_(1957_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Admirable_Crichton_(1957_f...
- joering2 8y agoAmazing story. Was I the only one who was disappointed that I cannot click the images to see a larger photos?? Surprisingly the internet doesn't seem to have a better resolution as well... :(
- 205guy 8y agoMuch of the world has been explored and photographed, but not necessarily since the advent of high resolution digital photography and drones. I have a dream of sailing to remote places like this and documenting them for Wikipedia.
- AnimalMuppet 8y ago"Illegally enslaved" isn't accurate. The slave trade was legal at the time. What wasn't legal was the ship (and/or captain), and the destination.
- eberkund 8y agoHow is that not accurate? Renting out a room for someone to live in is legal but in some places it isn't illegal to do so without the proper zoning and/or permits. Therefore you would call someone doing that "illegally renting".
- AnimalMuppet 8y agoBecause "enslaving" refers to the action of making someone a slave, not to the action of shipping someone who was already a slave to a new location. That's "illegally shipped", not "illegally enslaved".
- solsticedev 8y agoAgreed on this point, although I also find the terminology of "legally enslaved" to be poor as I'm sure the enslaved people themselves did not give credence to that law.
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- jacquesm 8y agoI think it should be illegal in all contexts because the slaves did not consent and they were people too. Not recognizing them as such does not make it legal.
- mboto 8y agoThey're talking about what was legal then. We're all agreed slavery should be illegal now, even if it isn't explicitly set down in law.
- kizer 8y agoI wonder which life would have been better for them. Would you trade everything for freedom?
- commandlinefan 8y agoEarlier today the headline read “illegally enslaved”, like in the linked article. I almost pointed out that that was redundant, but I figured there was no point. Apparently it did bother somebody.
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- JshWright 8y agoLegal slavery was commonplace at the time the events described took place.
- toomanybeersies 8y agoIt's not redundant. Slavey was legal at the time, but these people in particular were illegally enslaved.
- txsh 8y agoNo. They were not. They were illegally purchased.
- drb91 8y agoChattel slavery is illegal. You could argue that other forms exist legally, such as prison labor: prisoners are explicitly exempted from the 14th amendment. It’s the eighth amendment prisoners rely on. Note that they’re paid? So have many types of slaves, including roman and american chattel slaves.
- JeremyBanks 8y agoDon't forget about "children".
- alasdair_ 8y agoSlavery is perfectly legal today in many countries, including the United States. The Constitution permityls slavery as the punishment for a crime (which is why prisoners can be worked for essentially zero pay).
- 205guy 8y agoWhat a coincidence, just a few hours ago, I found similar stories: Blackbirding in the Pacific: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackbirding https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackbirding All able-bodied men kidnapped from the 3 islands of Tokelau: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokelau https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokelau
- emmelaich 8y agoAnother fascinating but gruesome shipwreck story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batavia_(ship)#Shipwreck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batavia_(ship)#Shipwreck > With a dedicated band of murderous young men, Cornelisz began to systematically kill anyone he believed would be a problem to his reign of terror, or a burden on their limited resources. The mutineers became intoxicated with killing, and no one could stop them. They needed only the smallest of excuses to drown, bash, strangle or stab to death any of their victims, including women and children More: http://members.iinet.com.au/~bill/batavia.html http://members.iinet.com.au/~bill/batavia.html