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For the non-Disney versions, try: https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Grimms-Fairy-Tales/dp/0394709306 https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Grimms-Fairy-Tales/dp/039470
by dmckeon 8y ago
For the non-Disney versions, try:
https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Grimms-Fairy-Tales/dp/0394709306 https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Grimms-Fairy-Tales/dp/039470...
Spoiler & trigger alert - the princess discovers
the true nature of the Frog Prince not with a kiss,
but by flinging him against a wall. Many of the other
stories are equally blunt, forceful, or realistic
for the times they came from.
Of note is the modern excision of the last phrase
from the closing formula:
"And they all lived happily ever after until they died."
- hodgesrm 8y ago> Of note is the modern excision of the last phrase from the closing formula: "And they all lived happily ever after until they died." I think this is true of English speakers. In German everyone knows the standard phrase "und wenn sie nicht gestorben sind, dann leben sie noch heute" ("And if they have not died then they are still alive today.") It's a sufficiently well known meme that people use it regularly in jokes. Edit: added quote for clarity
- bloak 8y agoMost of the Grimm stories don't seem to have a closing formula, as far as I can tell, though there's (at least) one that ends with "sie lebten vergnügt bis an ihr Ende". I suppose I might translate that as: "they lived happily to the end of their days". To me the most familiar closing formula is "und wenn sie nicht gestorben sind, dann leben sie noch heute", which is quite interesting to think about really: what does it tell or suggest to the listener?
- dmckeon 8y agoI may have put words in the Grimms' mouths here, either from translation or conflation with other sources. Thank you both for the German formulas - there are examples from many languages at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_upon_a_time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_upon_a_time