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Job's read and perception of where things were going is very impressive, hard to think of anyone today who could be this eloquent and persuasive...

josu 8y ago
Probably Naval https://twitter.com/naval?s=09 https://twitter.com/naval?s=09
- olivermarks 8y ago
  that's just someone who has tweeted 16.7k times, I can't imagine Jobs would waste his time on doing that...
  - mandeepj 8y ago
    > waste his time on doing that... Not a time waste. Look at Elon. He spends a lot of his time in engaging at Twitter
    - briandear 8y ago
      He should spend more of his time building cars.
      - sah2ed 8y ago
        Elon has said that his tweet frequency should not be construed as time spent on the platform.
        olivermarks 8y ago
        He must have better access to the space time continuum than everyone else then - I tend to put manic tweeters into a low attention span, high hand waving for attention group who only have a few hours left in their day to actually do anything else...
        ebrenes 8y ago
        What he probably has access to is people who review his feed and replies and curate that for him. So he's not responding to tweets he's found himself; but rather to tweets that have been highlighted for him to respond to (if he so desires). Heck, his team might actually include possible response ideas. The fallacy is thinking Elon uses Twitter like any other person uses Twitter. Sitting on his device, manually scrolling through it and replying sequentially. He's probably outsourced much of this to his media teams or other people he trusts to provide relevant material to engage with.
  - josu 8y ago
    >eloquent and persuasive Nothing to do with how they conducted their lives.
IkmoIkmo 8y ago
Not sure I agree here, but he was a CEO who was simultaneously in this underdog position but also playing it really well. The refreshing thing about this is that he's relatively open about talking about his thoughts for the future and the strategy of his company. Most CEOs (including Jobs at a later stage) are much more apprehensive about talking openly. He turned his futurism into a marketing move, a bit like Elon Musk uses his vision, goals and trajectory as a marketing move. That's basically the only reason I like to listen to the big VCs, because they're actually terribly open about their thoughts unlike virtually all CEOs. Because they also use their vision of the future as a marketing move. Someone mentioned Naval for example, that's no coincidence I think, angel/venture investors cluster quite high on my list of people talking openly about their perception of where things are going (regardless of whether it's a correct perception or not).
- olivermarks 8y ago
  I was probably hard on Naval just now - IMO Jobs created what is today the most successful company on the planet. VC's are great at placing other people's bets and sounding convincing about it, not in the same league...

josu 8y ago

Probably Naval https://twitter.com/naval?s=09 https://twitter.com/naval?s=09

olivermarks 8y ago
that's just someone who has tweeted 16.7k times, I can't imagine Jobs would waste his time on doing that...
- mandeepj 8y ago
  > waste his time on doing that... Not a time waste. Look at Elon. He spends a lot of his time in engaging at Twitter
  - briandear 8y ago
    He should spend more of his time building cars.
    - sah2ed 8y ago
      Elon has said that his tweet frequency should not be construed as time spent on the platform.
      - olivermarks 8y ago
        He must have better access to the space time continuum than everyone else then - I tend to put manic tweeters into a low attention span, high hand waving for attention group who only have a few hours left in their day to actually do anything else...
        ebrenes 8y ago
        What he probably has access to is people who review his feed and replies and curate that for him. So he's not responding to tweets he's found himself; but rather to tweets that have been highlighted for him to respond to (if he so desires). Heck, his team might actually include possible response ideas. The fallacy is thinking Elon uses Twitter like any other person uses Twitter. Sitting on his device, manually scrolling through it and replying sequentially. He's probably outsourced much of this to his media teams or other people he trusts to provide relevant material to engage with.
- josu 8y ago
  >eloquent and persuasive Nothing to do with how they conducted their lives.

IkmoIkmo 8y ago

Not sure I agree here, but he was a CEO who was simultaneously in this underdog position but also playing it really well. The refreshing thing about this is that he's relatively open about talking about his thoughts for the future and the strategy of his company. Most CEOs (including Jobs at a later stage) are much more apprehensive about talking openly. He turned his futurism into a marketing move, a bit like Elon Musk uses his vision, goals and trajectory as a marketing move. That's basically the only reason I like to listen to the big VCs, because they're actually terribly open about their thoughts unlike virtually all CEOs. Because they also use their vision of the future as a marketing move. Someone mentioned Naval for example, that's no coincidence I think, angel/venture investors cluster quite high on my list of people talking openly about their perception of where things are going (regardless of whether it's a correct perception or not).

olivermarks 8y ago
I was probably hard on Naval just now - IMO Jobs created what is today the most successful company on the planet. VC's are great at placing other people's bets and sounding convincing about it, not in the same league...