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What does this have to do with the next Walt Disney? The next "Walt Disney" is not going to be copying Mickey Mouse they will be creating something new... Inspi

by hahla 8y ago

What does this have to do with the next Walt Disney? The next "Walt Disney" is not going to be copying Mickey Mouse they will be creating something new... Inspiration != copying.

snaily 8y ago
Except that at least of the source material for Disney classics was based on public domain sources that was younger than Mickey Mouse is today. Pinocchio (the book) was released in 1883,and thus only 73 years at the time of the Disney movie (source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/derekkhanna/2014/02/03/50-disney-movies-based-on-the-public-domain/#1e69a2f4329c https://www.forbes.com/sites/derekkhanna/2014/02/03/50-disne...) It is somewhat hypocritical to lobby for removal of the same protections that enabled your own success.
- Johnny555 8y ago
  It is somewhat hypocritical to lobby for removal of the same protections that enabled your own success. I don't think "hypocritical" is the right word to use, I think it's completely reasonable for a company to want to lock out its competitors (even unborn competitors) even if it means shutting the same door that company used to achieve success. It's up to elected lawmakers to uphold the interests of common citizens, and we all know how that goes.
  - Lio 8y ago
    I think a good deal of the world’s troubles can be attributed to people saying “It's up to elected lawmakers to uphold the interests of common citizens”. Corporations solely relying on legislators is not a reasonable thing to do at all. I think acting immorally to turn a profit for your shareholders just because something is legal is, well,... immoral.
  - jimjimjim 8y ago
    this is what is wrong with the world today. Thinking that if something isn't illegal there is nothing wrong with it. So if you managed to lobby and bribe politicians to make killing someone legal, it would be ok to kill people?
- dotancohen 8y ago
  > It is somewhat hypocritical to lobby for removal of the same protections that enabled your own success. In some older interviews Bill Gates describes how he would fish the source code of programs from the trash to learn how they work. I probably do not need to describe his company's attitude towards open source on HN.
Horrible 8y ago
The point is that Disney by and large wasn't "creating something new" - he was reusing and re-purposing existing stories that were in the public domain, something that extending copyrights severely limits.
andrepd 8y ago
Dude, what is Disney known for? Retellings of old stories and fairy-tales... Star Wars is a fairytale of our days, yet no artist can retell the story or expand the universe.

by hahla 8y ago

What does this have to do with the next Walt Disney? The next "Walt Disney" is not going to be copying Mickey Mouse they will be creating something new... Inspiration != copying.

snaily 8y ago

Except that at least of the source material for Disney classics was based on public domain sources that was younger than Mickey Mouse is today. Pinocchio (the book) was released in 1883,and thus only 73 years at the time of the Disney movie (source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/derekkhanna/2014/02/03/50-disney-movies-based-on-the-public-domain/#1e69a2f4329c https://www.forbes.com/sites/derekkhanna/2014/02/03/50-disne...) It is somewhat hypocritical to lobby for removal of the same protections that enabled your own success.

Johnny555 8y ago
It is somewhat hypocritical to lobby for removal of the same protections that enabled your own success. I don't think "hypocritical" is the right word to use, I think it's completely reasonable for a company to want to lock out its competitors (even unborn competitors) even if it means shutting the same door that company used to achieve success. It's up to elected lawmakers to uphold the interests of common citizens, and we all know how that goes.
- Lio 8y ago
  I think a good deal of the world’s troubles can be attributed to people saying “It's up to elected lawmakers to uphold the interests of common citizens”. Corporations solely relying on legislators is not a reasonable thing to do at all. I think acting immorally to turn a profit for your shareholders just because something is legal is, well,... immoral.
- jimjimjim 8y ago
  this is what is wrong with the world today. Thinking that if something isn't illegal there is nothing wrong with it. So if you managed to lobby and bribe politicians to make killing someone legal, it would be ok to kill people?
dotancohen 8y ago
> It is somewhat hypocritical to lobby for removal of the same protections that enabled your own success. In some older interviews Bill Gates describes how he would fish the source code of programs from the trash to learn how they work. I probably do not need to describe his company's attitude towards open source on HN.

Horrible 8y ago

The point is that Disney by and large wasn't "creating something new" - he was reusing and re-purposing existing stories that were in the public domain, something that extending copyrights severely limits.

andrepd 8y ago

Dude, what is Disney known for? Retellings of old stories and fairy-tales... Star Wars is a fairytale of our days, yet no artist can retell the story or expand the universe.