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Highly appreciated. I understand that it's a big piece to go into all the details, but I also covered getting professional help. I'll paste the paragraph below

Highly appreciated. I understand that it's a big piece to go into all the details, but I also covered getting professional help. I'll paste the paragraph below: "Ended up going for half a year and it was concluded that I’m beyond help (I can’t help myself). Waste of money and wouldn’t recommend if your problem is not related to self-esteem or childhood trauma. If you know a person that could understand or give me valuable input, please let me know." Do you think I should give it one more chance? I feel like at a certain level I have realistic concerns, but I also understand that I may be cynical because of the condition... Thank you

arkades 8y ago
Your concerns are realistic. Whether or not you have depression is entirely orthogonal to whether you are facing real and valid obstacles in your life. Please don’t take my comment as invalidating your feelings or difficulties. Depression has a lot more to do with the mental resources you can bring to bear in dealing with those difficulties. From what you say, I believe you saw a talk therapist (often a psychologist or licensed therapist) rather than a medical doctor (psychiatrist). I strongly suggest you see a medical doctor. No competent psychiatrist will tell you that you’re beyond help. There are a slew of medications, cognitive therapies, and other interventions available. It’s a process to find out which combination may help you, but it’s rare to find someone that can’t achieve some level of relief. Also, I thought I read your whole piece, but I guess I blanked on that passage. Sorry.
- WannaLive 8y ago
  Thank you once again. I'll allocate a budget and give it a try. Also, I'm really grateful that you went through the whole thing, I understand it's pretty long, so it means a lot to me.
dynamicvariable 8y ago
> Highly appreciated. The first rule of the internet is don't take medical advice from anonymous people on the internet. The second rule of the internet is don't take medical advice from anonymous people on the internet.
- arkades 8y ago
  I love HN sometimes. A long thread of nutritional bro science getting basic physiology wildly wrong, literally leading off with the comment “don’t listen to what those doctors tell you”? All kosher. “You should see a doctor about that whole ‘considering suicide was the highlight of your day’ thing”? Whoa, buddy, slow down, this is the Internet, be careful who you listen to.
  - dynamicvariable 8y ago
    > I love HN sometimes. A long thread of nutritional bro science getting basic physiology wildly wrong, literally leading off with the comment “don’t listen to what those doctors tell you”? All kosher. So you are agreeing with me? Not to take medical advice from anonymous internet sources? Seems like you are saying the same thing I'm saying.
    - arkades 8y ago
      If you can’t distinguish between “you should take this pill” and “you should consult a medical professional,” we have little to discuss. If you think someone telling you they considered killing themselves to be a high point isn’t at all concerning, we have nothing to discuss at all.

arkades 8y ago

Your concerns are realistic. Whether or not you have depression is entirely orthogonal to whether you are facing real and valid obstacles in your life. Please don’t take my comment as invalidating your feelings or difficulties. Depression has a lot more to do with the mental resources you can bring to bear in dealing with those difficulties. From what you say, I believe you saw a talk therapist (often a psychologist or licensed therapist) rather than a medical doctor (psychiatrist). I strongly suggest you see a medical doctor. No competent psychiatrist will tell you that you’re beyond help. There are a slew of medications, cognitive therapies, and other interventions available. It’s a process to find out which combination may help you, but it’s rare to find someone that can’t achieve some level of relief. Also, I thought I read your whole piece, but I guess I blanked on that passage. Sorry.

WannaLive 8y ago
Thank you once again. I'll allocate a budget and give it a try. Also, I'm really grateful that you went through the whole thing, I understand it's pretty long, so it means a lot to me.

dynamicvariable 8y ago

> Highly appreciated. The first rule of the internet is don't take medical advice from anonymous people on the internet. The second rule of the internet is don't take medical advice from anonymous people on the internet.

arkades 8y ago
I love HN sometimes. A long thread of nutritional bro science getting basic physiology wildly wrong, literally leading off with the comment “don’t listen to what those doctors tell you”? All kosher. “You should see a doctor about that whole ‘considering suicide was the highlight of your day’ thing”? Whoa, buddy, slow down, this is the Internet, be careful who you listen to.
- dynamicvariable 8y ago
  > I love HN sometimes. A long thread of nutritional bro science getting basic physiology wildly wrong, literally leading off with the comment “don’t listen to what those doctors tell you”? All kosher. So you are agreeing with me? Not to take medical advice from anonymous internet sources? Seems like you are saying the same thing I'm saying.
  - arkades 8y ago
    If you can’t distinguish between “you should take this pill” and “you should consult a medical professional,” we have little to discuss. If you think someone telling you they considered killing themselves to be a high point isn’t at all concerning, we have nothing to discuss at all.