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>a software change that it said could be accomplished for pennies per vehicle. In the face of auto industry opposition, the agency let the plan languish, though

by hi41 8y ago

>a software change that it said could be accomplished for pennies per vehicle. In the face of auto industry opposition, the agency let the plan languish, though it says a rule is still under consideration. Why the car industry would oppose such a minor fix is beyond me. If it does not even hurt the bottom line, why not make that change.

Swizec 8y ago
Many reasons why they’d oppose. Making it automatic means you become liable when it doesn’t work. Software has bugs. Adding it to older cars means you have to admit your cars aren’t safe and that’s hard plus recalls are annoying to deal with. People are fed up with all the beeping in modern cars and are becoming alarm deaf. I’m sure there’s others.
emodendroket 8y ago
I'd think some drivers prefer the current behavior. Like if you don't have a garage and live somewhere with cold winters you probably want to be able to start it and walk away.
- oh_sigh 8y ago
  Sure, but 30 mins is more than enough time to warm up in situations where externally powered heaters aren't required. Surely there must be some safe ground that would not drastically affect most drivers, but still save lives
  - emodendroket 8y ago
    Yeah, that's fair. I drive a manual car, which makes it very hard to absent-mindedly leave your car running (at least if you park it in gear, but I think most people do).
fyfy18 8y ago
I have a 2010 Prius with keyless entry and start. If the car is on and you close any door without the key in the vehicle it will make a loud audible beeping noise. It means if you jump out to get something from the trunk, it first starts beeping when the drivers door is closed and again when the trunk is closed. Pretty hard to miss. If you try and lock the car while it is on (using the keyless entry), it will just produce a continuous audible noise and won’t lock - again pretty hard to miss. The same thing happens if you try and lock a key in the vehicle.

by hi41 8y ago

Swizec 8y ago

Many reasons why they’d oppose. Making it automatic means you become liable when it doesn’t work. Software has bugs. Adding it to older cars means you have to admit your cars aren’t safe and that’s hard plus recalls are annoying to deal with. People are fed up with all the beeping in modern cars and are becoming alarm deaf. I’m sure there’s others.

emodendroket 8y ago

I'd think some drivers prefer the current behavior. Like if you don't have a garage and live somewhere with cold winters you probably want to be able to start it and walk away.

oh_sigh 8y ago
Sure, but 30 mins is more than enough time to warm up in situations where externally powered heaters aren't required. Surely there must be some safe ground that would not drastically affect most drivers, but still save lives
- emodendroket 8y ago
  Yeah, that's fair. I drive a manual car, which makes it very hard to absent-mindedly leave your car running (at least if you park it in gear, but I think most people do).

fyfy18 8y ago

I have a 2010 Prius with keyless entry and start. If the car is on and you close any door without the key in the vehicle it will make a loud audible beeping noise. It means if you jump out to get something from the trunk, it first starts beeping when the drivers door is closed and again when the trunk is closed. Pretty hard to miss. If you try and lock the car while it is on (using the keyless entry), it will just produce a continuous audible noise and won’t lock - again pretty hard to miss. The same thing happens if you try and lock a key in the vehicle.