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> or over microsoft one note? Choosing one note from the beginning is agreeing technical debt is an awesome thing: - you're stuck with Windows (or whatever ma

> or over microsoft one note? Choosing one note from the beginning is agreeing technical debt is an awesome thing: - you're stuck with Windows (or whatever mac version they did) - no way to properly version control it (proprietary format and not just text) - good luck to migrate somewhere else (I already experienced it with a colleague that left the company and had his entire knowledge base in there ...) - you got to be happy with the direction Microsoft is taking it. > Is org-mode great enough to invest in the learning curve over something like this I don't know about this tool but org mode is as open as it can be and it's been here since years, text based. The time investment is minimal if you just want to use it, it's just all the features around that can take time. I wrote up a tutorial on getting started with org mode if you want to touch the surface of it (https://mickael.kerjean.me/2017/03/20/emacs-tutorial-series-episode-2/ https://mickael.kerjean.me/2017/03/20/emacs-tutorial-series-...) > Most of my work is in ..... R You can literally put R code snippet in your org document and execute it straight from there but that's just one of the many features org mode has to offer

eyeball 8y ago
Thanks for the rely and tutorial link! I will definitely check it out when I'm not behind my damn work firewall. Quick added question (And apologies if addressed there already) any thoughts on alternate editors to emacs that also work with org-mod if I'm not invested in emacs already? I've been doing some searching and see suggestions for spacemacs as a more intuitive editor to roll it into. (space key instead of ctrl, mnemonics used in commands)
- mickael-kerjean 8y ago
  > any thoughts on alternate editors to emacs that also work with org-mod emacs is the roll roice when it comes to org documents but out of it is perfectly fine, it's like editing markdown documents. I created a web version of orgmode that has quite a few of the goodies from the original orgmode: https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/nuage/wiki/Org-Mode https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/nuage/wiki/Org-Mode > I've been doing some searching and see suggestions for spacemacs as a more intuitive editor to roll it into. spaceemacs is emacs + some stuff. It's like choosing ubuntu over arch linux, the only difference is the flavoring. Personally I'm a purist so I only go with the original version. The link I sent you is actually part of a serie I wrote on emacs that start here: https://mickael.kerjean.me/2017/03/18/emacs-tutorial-series-episode-0/ https://mickael.kerjean.me/2017/03/18/emacs-tutorial-series-...
lazyasciiart 8y ago
> - good luck to migrate somewhere else (I already experienced it with a colleague that left the company and had his entire knowledge base in there ...) That's not a real problem, you can export onenote to many other doc formats. https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/22679/beginner-save-your-onenote-2010-docs-to-different-file-formats/ https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/22679/beginner-save-your-one...
- crispinb 8y ago
  > That's not a real problem, you can export onenote to many other doc formats Oh it's a real problem alright. Having used many notes apps & formats over the years, I've been burned by this notion too many times to ever fall for it again. Exporting is only a practical means of migrating sizeable note collections if the export and subsequent import into another system can be done with high fidelity for both content and metadata. This is extremely rare. In practice, the exported version nearly always requires an amount of reorganisation work that's impractical if you have years' worth of notes. I'll never again use notes software that uses an opaque storage format. In a way I regret this, as it precludes Onenote, Evernote etc, which do have their advantages (no note app I've tried has ever had as nice a basic canvas as Onenote, for example). But longevity and cross-platform availability are the keys for me.
- mickael-kerjean 8y ago
  None of the export option are grepable. In 2018, it's a nice touch to be able to export your note making it discoverable and searchable for anybody in the team (even if they don't use your note system). I would have love to put my colleague note on our internal slack, the html export was the closest thing I could use but in practise the generate code is so crapy that it's wasn't possible without spending a lot of time cleaning up the mess and nobody were able to properly find something in his many years worth of internal knowledge base.
  - lazyasciiart 8y ago
    Seriously? If you can't do all that with a .docx file then you might want to branch out of your .txt comfort zone a little more often.

eyeball 8y ago

Thanks for the rely and tutorial link! I will definitely check it out when I'm not behind my damn work firewall. Quick added question (And apologies if addressed there already) any thoughts on alternate editors to emacs that also work with org-mod if I'm not invested in emacs already? I've been doing some searching and see suggestions for spacemacs as a more intuitive editor to roll it into. (space key instead of ctrl, mnemonics used in commands)

mickael-kerjean 8y ago
> any thoughts on alternate editors to emacs that also work with org-mod emacs is the roll roice when it comes to org documents but out of it is perfectly fine, it's like editing markdown documents. I created a web version of orgmode that has quite a few of the goodies from the original orgmode: https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/nuage/wiki/Org-Mode https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/nuage/wiki/Org-Mode > I've been doing some searching and see suggestions for spacemacs as a more intuitive editor to roll it into. spaceemacs is emacs + some stuff. It's like choosing ubuntu over arch linux, the only difference is the flavoring. Personally I'm a purist so I only go with the original version. The link I sent you is actually part of a serie I wrote on emacs that start here: https://mickael.kerjean.me/2017/03/18/emacs-tutorial-series-episode-0/ https://mickael.kerjean.me/2017/03/18/emacs-tutorial-series-...

lazyasciiart 8y ago

> - good luck to migrate somewhere else (I already experienced it with a colleague that left the company and had his entire knowledge base in there ...) That's not a real problem, you can export onenote to many other doc formats. https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/22679/beginner-save-your-onenote-2010-docs-to-different-file-formats/ https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/22679/beginner-save-your-one...

crispinb 8y ago
> That's not a real problem, you can export onenote to many other doc formats Oh it's a real problem alright. Having used many notes apps & formats over the years, I've been burned by this notion too many times to ever fall for it again. Exporting is only a practical means of migrating sizeable note collections if the export and subsequent import into another system can be done with high fidelity for both content and metadata. This is extremely rare. In practice, the exported version nearly always requires an amount of reorganisation work that's impractical if you have years' worth of notes. I'll never again use notes software that uses an opaque storage format. In a way I regret this, as it precludes Onenote, Evernote etc, which do have their advantages (no note app I've tried has ever had as nice a basic canvas as Onenote, for example). But longevity and cross-platform availability are the keys for me.
mickael-kerjean 8y ago
None of the export option are grepable. In 2018, it's a nice touch to be able to export your note making it discoverable and searchable for anybody in the team (even if they don't use your note system). I would have love to put my colleague note on our internal slack, the html export was the closest thing I could use but in practise the generate code is so crapy that it's wasn't possible without spending a lot of time cleaning up the mess and nobody were able to properly find something in his many years worth of internal knowledge base.
- lazyasciiart 8y ago
  Seriously? If you can't do all that with a .docx file then you might want to branch out of your .txt comfort zone a little more often.