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I don't believe that anything short of them or their loved ones contacting measles will change their minds. If the threat of diseases we've eliminated returnin

by nkrisc 9y ago

I don't believe that anything short of them or their loved ones contacting measles will change their minds. If the threat of diseases we've eliminated returning isn't enough, then perhaps only the diseases themselves will do it.

mrfusion 9y ago
I once asked what they would do if they got bitten by a rabid animal. Rabies treatment is a vaccine afaik. I couldn’t get a straight answer :-(
- aldoushuxley001 9y ago
  It couldn't be a vaccine if you already have rabies; vaccines are preventative medicine to build an immune response ahead of time.
  - mrfusion 9y ago
    That’s the treatment though: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/rabies/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20351826 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/rabies/diagno... Maybe the vaccine can still stimulate you or immune system faster than the virus can take hold?
    - maxerickson 9y ago
      Pretty much. I'd say it stimulates the immune system before the virus does much damage rather than before it takes hold.
  - CharlesW 9y ago
    The way I read it[1], you're both right. The rabies vaccine is part of rabies treatment, but it's used in the window between being exposed to rabies and developing rabies. People who've been exposed but haven't been previously vaccinated also get Rabies Immune Globulin, which provides immediate antibodies until the body can respond to the vaccine by actively producing antibodies of its own. CDC: "Rabies vaccine is given to people at high risk of rabies to protect them if they are exposed. It can also prevent the disease if it is given to a person after they have been exposed."[1] [1] https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/rabies.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/rabies.h...
buvanshak 9y ago
> I don't believe that anything short of them or their loved ones contacting measles will change their minds. That is like saying people should not be driving cars since there is someone dying of a car accident every day. And that a person is to blame if they took their family out for a joy ride, and ends up in an accident killing them all. That is also like expecting someone never to ride in a car, because someone dear to them were killed in an accident...
kazinator 9y ago
You think that a child contracting (not "contacting") a disease, or even dying, will convince some anti-vacc idiot of anything? They will find a way to blame it on vaccines even though the child didn't have a single one. Maybe the child came into contact with a vaccinated child and got the disease from that child's vaccine! Yeah, that must be it. Some 25 years ago, I learned from a homeless man on the streets of Vancouver a curious hypothesis: AIDS probably originates from those damn condoms themselves! The molecules of the latex rubber mutated into the virus, you see ...

by nkrisc 9y ago

mrfusion 9y ago

I once asked what they would do if they got bitten by a rabid animal. Rabies treatment is a vaccine afaik. I couldn’t get a straight answer :-(

aldoushuxley001 9y ago
It couldn't be a vaccine if you already have rabies; vaccines are preventative medicine to build an immune response ahead of time.
- mrfusion 9y ago
  That’s the treatment though: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/rabies/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20351826 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/rabies/diagno... Maybe the vaccine can still stimulate you or immune system faster than the virus can take hold?
  - maxerickson 9y ago
    Pretty much. I'd say it stimulates the immune system before the virus does much damage rather than before it takes hold.
- CharlesW 9y ago
  The way I read it[1], you're both right. The rabies vaccine is part of rabies treatment, but it's used in the window between being exposed to rabies and developing rabies. People who've been exposed but haven't been previously vaccinated also get Rabies Immune Globulin, which provides immediate antibodies until the body can respond to the vaccine by actively producing antibodies of its own. CDC: "Rabies vaccine is given to people at high risk of rabies to protect them if they are exposed. It can also prevent the disease if it is given to a person after they have been exposed."[1] [1] https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/rabies.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/rabies.h...

buvanshak 9y ago

> I don't believe that anything short of them or their loved ones contacting measles will change their minds. That is like saying people should not be driving cars since there is someone dying of a car accident every day. And that a person is to blame if they took their family out for a joy ride, and ends up in an accident killing them all. That is also like expecting someone never to ride in a car, because someone dear to them were killed in an accident...

kazinator 9y ago

You think that a child contracting (not "contacting") a disease, or even dying, will convince some anti-vacc idiot of anything? They will find a way to blame it on vaccines even though the child didn't have a single one. Maybe the child came into contact with a vaccinated child and got the disease from that child's vaccine! Yeah, that must be it. Some 25 years ago, I learned from a homeless man on the streets of Vancouver a curious hypothesis: AIDS probably originates from those damn condoms themselves! The molecules of the latex rubber mutated into the virus, you see ...